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Not sufficient.
Franky has a "broken ass body" as well. Where did it take him?
Lunarians have a "broken ass body" gimmick. they went almost extinct.
You may not like it, but it is what it is.
Franky has a "broken ass body" as well. Where did it take him?
Lunarians have a "broken ass body" gimmick. they went almost extinct.
You may not like it, but it is what it is.
Its just oda has never been focusing on haki with sanji look at Coa its not visible and we wouldn't have known if sanji didn't talk about it lol
And now he will give him coc , so will it also be invisible 🫥
Blame oda not me
That's kinda some echo chamber lie that people fed themselves all these years and, somehow, it became a truth to them.
This whole "sanji never had haki focus" is just that.
He was, as were luffy and zoro, singled out as the only members with haki out of the TS.
They talked about him developing haki during WCI.
Wano he mixes both his CoA with the exoskeleton in order to create IJ.
The issue comes from the fact that Luffy is the main MC, so every single haki step development has pages and pages for him. Zoro has the whole black blade thing with ryou, so it's more apparent. And here's the keyword: "apparent".
Sanji's haki was never in question throughout the whole TS. xD
The whole visibility thing, i'm gonna give you that, because Oda's visual portrayal of haki is insanely bad and convoluted.
Just check Killingham little cloud aura thingie that has changed from white to black a bunch of times throughout Elbaph. xD Inconsistency is the name of the game, and that's on Oda.
This whole "sanji never had haki focus" is just that.
He was, as were luffy and zoro, singled out as the only members with haki out of the TS.
They talked about him developing haki during WCI.
Wano he mixes both his CoA with the exoskeleton in order to create IJ.
The issue comes from the fact that Luffy is the main MC, so every single haki step development has pages and pages for him. Zoro has the whole black blade thing with ryou, so it's more apparent. And here's the keyword: "apparent".
Sanji's haki was never in question throughout the whole TS. xD
The whole visibility thing, i'm gonna give you that, because Oda's visual portrayal of haki is insanely bad and convoluted.
Just check Killingham little cloud aura thingie that has changed from white to black a bunch of times throughout Elbaph. xD Inconsistency is the name of the game, and that's on Oda.
Don't blame fans when oda himself is shy with sanji haki , we know that haki is same power with everyone in op , even the coo which sanji is specialized in , oda didn't develop it in anyway to next lvl like fs or other uses such how ray get know sbout animals in island. as i remember even in fights, and this unfortunately applied to all lol
And it worse for coa .
And coc , not saying it will not happen but oda way with sanji and haki is questionable , so that's it's better for sanji to get good pu than half ass haki from loda
Sry, but I gotta disagree with you there.
I dont think Sanji has "half ass haki" at all. xD
"oh but he didnt get this or that". Story is not over yet. We also have lots of story stretches without any growth for most characters.
FI didnt have anything aside from basic haki for the M3.
Dressrosa Sanji left in the middle. Zoro only got the ryou blackening on his swords and some black blade tease from Mihawk, but still, it's just basic blackening applied to his swords. The Kujas were imbuing their weapons with invisible haki back in pre-TS.
Zou? nothing happens there.
WCI? Zoro isn't there. Luffy gets the FS, but we get a glimpse of Sanji being able to dodge Katakuri's bean, which considering Kuri is a FS user and couldn't tell Sanji's dodge, it says a lot of about Sanji's CoO.
Wano? CoA+Exoskeleton producing IJ (which, by your standard, should be good, considering it's something more unique to Sanji). Zoro got his sucked CoC from Enma. Luffy, being the boring MC that he is, is the one that got ID CoA and "mastered" ACoC usage counsciously.
Also, despite being shown as a gag, Sanji has CONSISTENTLY demonstrated good CoO showings with his "women detector". And another reminder that DJ can burn people internally. It's the FIRST thing Jabura says when he gets hit by it for the first time. So he doesn't need ID CoA and can dodge attacks from FS user.
Egghead? Nothing for nobody.
Elbaph? Zoro's gonna learn how to use ACoC at will, like Luffy did at Wano. Sanji is getting CoC. He possibly (and probably) will also get ACoC, since he also listened to Gaban's talk about ACoC usage. So he SHOULD be aware of the coating thing already.
So, again, this whole "sanji has underdeveloped haki" is more of a falacy than anything, really. When you actually look at the story, You see that Sanji is perfectly fine.
I dont think Sanji has "half ass haki" at all. xD
"oh but he didnt get this or that". Story is not over yet. We also have lots of story stretches without any growth for most characters.
FI didnt have anything aside from basic haki for the M3.
Dressrosa Sanji left in the middle. Zoro only got the ryou blackening on his swords and some black blade tease from Mihawk, but still, it's just basic blackening applied to his swords. The Kujas were imbuing their weapons with invisible haki back in pre-TS.
Zou? nothing happens there.
WCI? Zoro isn't there. Luffy gets the FS, but we get a glimpse of Sanji being able to dodge Katakuri's bean, which considering Kuri is a FS user and couldn't tell Sanji's dodge, it says a lot of about Sanji's CoO.
Wano? CoA+Exoskeleton producing IJ (which, by your standard, should be good, considering it's something more unique to Sanji). Zoro got his sucked CoC from Enma. Luffy, being the boring MC that he is, is the one that got ID CoA and "mastered" ACoC usage counsciously.
Also, despite being shown as a gag, Sanji has CONSISTENTLY demonstrated good CoO showings with his "women detector". And another reminder that DJ can burn people internally. It's the FIRST thing Jabura says when he gets hit by it for the first time. So he doesn't need ID CoA and can dodge attacks from FS user.
Egghead? Nothing for nobody.
Elbaph? Zoro's gonna learn how to use ACoC at will, like Luffy did at Wano. Sanji is getting CoC. He possibly (and probably) will also get ACoC, since he also listened to Gaban's talk about ACoC usage. So he SHOULD be aware of the coating thing already.
So, again, this whole "sanji has underdeveloped haki" is more of a falacy than anything, really. When you actually look at the story, You see that Sanji is perfectly fine.
Sry, but I gotta disagree with you there.
I dont think Sanji has "half ass haki" at all. xD
"oh but he didnt get this or that". Story is not over yet. We also have lots of story stretches without any growth for most characters.
FI didnt have anything aside from basic haki for the M3.
Dressrosa Sanji left in the middle. Zoro only got the ryou blackening on his swords and some black blade tease from Mihawk, but still, it's just basic blackening applied to his swords. The Kujas were imbuing their weapons with invisible haki back in pre-TS.
Zou? nothing happens there.
WCI? Zoro isn't there. Luffy gets the FS, but we get a glimpse of Sanji being able to dodge Katakuri's bean, which considering Kuri is a FS user and couldn't tell Sanji's dodge, it says a lot of about Sanji's CoO.
Wano? CoA+Exoskeleton producing IJ (which, by your standard, should be good, considering it's something more unique to Sanji). Zoro got his sucked CoC from Enma. Luffy, being the boring MC that he is, is the one that got ID CoA and "mastered" ACoC usage counsciously.
Also, despite being shown as a gag, Sanji has CONSISTENTLY demonstrated good CoO showings with his "women detector". And another reminder that DJ can burn people internally. It's the FIRST thing Jabura says when he gets hit by it for the first time. So he doesn't need ID CoA and can dodge attacks from FS user.
Egghead? Nothing for nobody.
Elbaph? Zoro's gonna learn how to use ACoC at will, like Luffy did at Wano. Sanji is getting CoC. He possibly (and probably) will also get ACoC, since he also listened to Gaban's talk about ACoC usage. So he SHOULD be aware of the coating thing already.
So, again, this whole "sanji has underdeveloped haki" is more of a falacy than anything, really. When you actually look at the story, You see that Sanji is perfectly fine.
I dont think Sanji has "half ass haki" at all. xD
"oh but he didnt get this or that". Story is not over yet. We also have lots of story stretches without any growth for most characters.
FI didnt have anything aside from basic haki for the M3.
Dressrosa Sanji left in the middle. Zoro only got the ryou blackening on his swords and some black blade tease from Mihawk, but still, it's just basic blackening applied to his swords. The Kujas were imbuing their weapons with invisible haki back in pre-TS.
Zou? nothing happens there.
WCI? Zoro isn't there. Luffy gets the FS, but we get a glimpse of Sanji being able to dodge Katakuri's bean, which considering Kuri is a FS user and couldn't tell Sanji's dodge, it says a lot of about Sanji's CoO.
Wano? CoA+Exoskeleton producing IJ (which, by your standard, should be good, considering it's something more unique to Sanji). Zoro got his sucked CoC from Enma. Luffy, being the boring MC that he is, is the one that got ID CoA and "mastered" ACoC usage counsciously.
Also, despite being shown as a gag, Sanji has CONSISTENTLY demonstrated good CoO showings with his "women detector". And another reminder that DJ can burn people internally. It's the FIRST thing Jabura says when he gets hit by it for the first time. So he doesn't need ID CoA and can dodge attacks from FS user.
Egghead? Nothing for nobody.
Elbaph? Zoro's gonna learn how to use ACoC at will, like Luffy did at Wano. Sanji is getting CoC. He possibly (and probably) will also get ACoC, since he also listened to Gaban's talk about ACoC usage. So he SHOULD be aware of the coating thing already.
So, again, this whole "sanji has underdeveloped haki" is more of a falacy than anything, really. When you actually look at the story, You see that Sanji is perfectly fine.
Nah sorry he is not fine at all ,
First of all sanji acquired mantra during ts , same as zolo coa , and Luffy both , lets don't bring luffy since he is mc .
What sanji has developed?! ,
First stage as u said it was to reveal what they achieved during ts as zolo with coa in dressrosa
Then in wano he moved to new lvl with advcoc
Sanji lets say he showed his ability to use mantra which can be summarized in
Those moments
Fish-Man Island: Detected Caribou hiding inside the royal palace.
Punk Hazard: Located Kin'emon’s torso deep underwater while trapped in Nami's body.
Dressrosa: Sensed Viola's true non-hostile motives and intercepted Doflamingo's surprise aerial attack on the Sunny.
Zou: Sensed Nekomamushi's presence approaching from outside Bege's body.
Whole Cake Island: Dodged Katakuri's jellybean projectile, reacting fast enough to counter Katakuri's Future Sight.
Wano (Onigashima): Detected women in distress from long distances across the castle and continuously tracked Luffy's condition.
Punk Hazard: Located Kin'emon’s torso deep underwater while trapped in Nami's body.
Dressrosa: Sensed Viola's true non-hostile motives and intercepted Doflamingo's surprise aerial attack on the Sunny.
Zou: Sensed Nekomamushi's presence approaching from outside Bege's body.
Whole Cake Island: Dodged Katakuri's jellybean projectile, reacting fast enough to counter Katakuri's Future Sight.
Wano (Onigashima): Detected women in distress from long distances across the castle and continuously tracked Luffy's condition.
This not all
U can see that oda gave him most use mantra outside fight and he stuck in phase where he show what he already acquired during ts
Oda didn't push him to next lvl during what ?! Those 600 chapters lol 😆
Blame oda here he could have gave him fu at least in wano , but he didn't,
And u can't at all confirm that sanji developed his coa cuz all this time he only showed normal use except as u said hint when evaded kata.
But that happened 200+ chapter ago and nothing seems to happen any time soon.
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Oda pushed zolo to advance in his haki same and more with luffy.
While sanji he is stuck in his ts training
Thanks to oda ofc he didn't give him a chance.
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This. Why i am skeptical about sanji getting coc . Cuz of oda writing towards sanji with haki is bullshit.
In general a summoner is utlimately dependent on his summons so I hear ya on this and also thought the same initially but it isn't really an issue as Kiringham has shown to be competent in close combat as well plus he's a mythical Kirin so has zoan physicality perks in addtion to Omen and an OP weapon in Loginus.
It's true that Sanji is not fighting Kiringham at the strongest he can truly be atm as he's not fighting alongside his summons but that version of Kiringham would be much stronger than Sommers. So right now Oda's utlizing his summons as crowd control instead.
Dude would bascially be Jin Woo if Oda had him utilize all his abilities as a set
It's true that Sanji is not fighting Kiringham at the strongest he can truly be atm as he's not fighting alongside his summons but that version of Kiringham would be much stronger than Sommers. So right now Oda's utlizing his summons as crowd control instead.
Dude would bascially be Jin Woo if Oda had him utilize all his abilities as a set
Luffy was given a physical transformation that gave him new abilities, and so was Sanji. They were similar, though they were not exactly the same. They were also the only two to share the "Warrior of" chapter titles during those awakenings. Luffy learned how to use Advanced CoC, while Zoro was given a sword that simply pulled it out of him. However, he was not aware of it, nor did he master its technique like Luffy did. They were similar, but not the same.
Also, I'd much rather Sanji unlock CoC under his own spotlight than have to share it with the main character. Zoro got a dim bulb in comparison. Not to mention the fact that Oda is actually putting the legwork into writing Sanji's awakening, with some level of character exploration and character development.
Also, I'd much rather Sanji unlock CoC under his own spotlight than have to share it with the main character. Zoro got a dim bulb in comparison. Not to mention the fact that Oda is actually putting the legwork into writing Sanji's awakening, with some level of character exploration and character development.
Magazine Comments ( *** ) Title: “What if Sanji gained Conqueror's Haki?”
“It seems Sanji would need to become a king just to be able to wield Conqueror's Haki, but I wonder what kind of king would suit him?” “Since Zoro is on the verge of becoming (King of Hell), it would only be fitting for there to be a king to counter him on the other side!?” “What do you think of (King of the Angels), for example?
If Sanji fought while wrapping his legs in sacred blue flames, he might end up looking even more like an angel..!
Perhaps a fighter on Gaban's level could almost tell who possesses Conqueror's Haki and who doesn't, so I'd like Gaban to take charge of selecting a group of fighters capable of facing off against the Holy Knights!”
Question at the bottom of the page: “A king who can face off against the King of Hell?”
“It seems Sanji would need to become a king just to be able to wield Conqueror's Haki, but I wonder what kind of king would suit him?” “Since Zoro is on the verge of becoming (King of Hell), it would only be fitting for there to be a king to counter him on the other side!?” “What do you think of (King of the Angels), for example?
If Sanji fought while wrapping his legs in sacred blue flames, he might end up looking even more like an angel..!
Perhaps a fighter on Gaban's level could almost tell who possesses Conqueror's Haki and who doesn't, so I'd like Gaban to take charge of selecting a group of fighters capable of facing off against the Holy Knights!”
Question at the bottom of the page: “A king who can face off against the King of Hell?”
