General & Others Zoro's Conqueror's Haki

[griffindidnuthinwrong]

The whole thing is bullshit,this is what i mean

You mean to tell me that Mihawk when he was training him did not notice that Zoro had the potential of king's haki?

You mean to tell me when Zoro showed his immense will when Bartholomew was testing him wasn't enough to unlock a King's haki if he had it any way?


You mean to tell me the first straw hat to have learned about and USED(yes i said it) Haki from his master Koushiro, a man from wano a land of samurai, when he fought No 2(that was haki) took this long to know he has king's haki?


Zoro should have been aware when he was training with Mihawk,He should have learnt about conquerors haki in Wano(most mismanaged arch ever)

 

[Dettles]

Zoro is just that Stupid.

 

[Juanpiz]

Just Like the Shc Life on the Ship is offscreen so is zolos time with Mihawk and perona

 

[MonochromeYoru]

just means he ain't a true real king i guess

he needed emma to suck out his coc for him

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

just means he ain't a true real king i guess

he needed emma to suck out his coc for him

No, Enma can’t suck out CoC… As demonstrated by it never sucking out Oden’s CoC… for 30 fucking years

 

[MonochromeYoru]

No, Enma can’t suck out CoC… As demonstrated by it never sucking out Oden’s CoC… for 30 fucking years

yeah cause lolden apparently had enough coa to meet emma's standard...

zoro literally says so

"It was my strength that was lacking"

 

[Albino 👑]

yeah cause lolden apparently had enough coa to meet emma's standard...

zoro literally says so

"It was my strength that was lacking"

What if what Zoro ment by “It was my strength that was lacking" was actually “my strength isn’t lacking it’s actually way stronger than oden. I’m only pretending because Oda is plot nerfing me”

 

[soupongo]

Haki is already a pretty bad system from introduction, but Oda could have at least tried making it a little interesting by having the Strawhats focus on the three different types like that one SBS kind of implied. Instead we get, observation Haki being borderline useless, and COC just having the powers of armament 2.0. Luffy was always mentioned as having armament that would need work, so Oda could have just had Zoro be ahead of him in that stat while Luffy has COC, but instead we end up having Zoro and Sanji unlocking it....1000 chapters into the series, after numerous life or death incidents. It's kind of crazy how Oda just ended up making the anti nen. No one really specializes in anything except Katakuri

 

[nik87]

Oda relies on plot induced stupidity quite a lot, it is what it is.
If Mihawk and Rayleigh told them everything during TS, it just wouldn't be the same.

 

[rohithkun]

Oda relies on plot induced stupidity quite a lot, it is what it is.
If Mihawk and Rayleigh told them everything during TS, it just wouldn't be the same.

Oda did set expectations correctly. Rayleigh explicitly says he will teach Luffy basics of Haki in 2 years. Its people who made wild theories that Rayleigh taught Luffy everything he knows.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Zoros really just this dumb. Dude was told flat out you have CoC and still didn’t get it

 

[Juanpiz]

Zoros really just this dumb. Dude was told flat out you have CoC and still didn’t get it

At least Not eustass Kidd Level stupid who imagined he could Take on an emperor After barely surviving another one

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

apparently had enough coa to meet emma's standard...

zoro literally says so

oh so Oden has been infinite CoA?

Enma doesn’t stop when you “meet it’s standard” Enma sucks up CoA quite literally until you either pass out or die

Zoro says that Oden was fine with having Enma suck out his haki so much… He doesn’t say Oden has infinite CoA that Enma can suck his shit forever and he isn’t affected

Either your claim is that Oden has infinite CoA or Oden only fought weaklings, his entire life

 

[MonochromeYoru]

oh so Oden has been infinite CoA?

where did i say that? where did the manga say that?

stop jumping to straw men

lolden just has more coa than zoro at that point is able to give emma

Enma doesn’t stop when you “meet it’s standard” Enma sucks up CoA quite literally until you either pass out or die

no

zoro can choose to stop giving emma control over the suck. That is why he didn't die on the rooftop from haki drain, or from when he got it till the king fight

Zoro says that Oden was fine with having Enma suck out his haki so much… He doesn’t say Oden has infinite CoA that Enma can suck his shit forever and he isn’t affected

once again with the retarded straw man...

lolden wasn't wielding emma for an infinite amount of time, was he?

emma clearly has a standard and lolden was able to meet it without the side effects that zoro has. Zoro himself says so in the damn manga. Argue with oda if you want

Either your claim is that Oden has infinite CoA or Oden only fought weaklings, his entire life

No. My claim is lolden was stronger and had more coa than king fight zoro.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

zoro can choose to stop giving emma control over the suck.

Do you even understand what the King fight was about?

Zoro can stop Enma’s suck… He did it from the very start of getting Enma… AND THIS WAS WRONG

Did you understand why Zoro had a flashback mid fight with King? In the King flashback the creator of Enma quite literally tells Zoro swords are supposedly to be allowed to destroy as much they want

this was Zoro’s entire point of having this flashback… did you not pay attention to the manga?

the CORRECT WAY of using Enma is to allow it to take as much haki as it wants… Yes Zoro can stop Enma anytime he wants… BUTS THATS WRONG… He had a whole flashback about how that’s wrong

the correct way of using Enma is to let it suck out your haki non-stop… So either Oden was using Enma wrong FOR 30 years by stopping it’s Haki suck… Or Oden used it correctly for 30 years and somehow has never ending haki so that Enma never affects him

oden had Enma for 30 years and yet Enma never once sucked out his CoC

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Zoro can stop Enma’s suck… He did it from the very start of getting Enma… AND THIS WAS WRONG

it just meant zoro was not utilizing emma's max output. emma's magical ability is to suck out large quantities of the user's haki and allow the user to wield it.

There is a limit to how much a person can out put their own haki and there is also a limit to emma's suck output too. At the time of the king fight, Zoro's ability to put out his own haki was inferior to emma's ability to suck it out off zoro. That's is why he was having trouble. Cause his haki reserves were not yet big enough, but emma forcefully turned on his haki tap way more than he could on his own. So he was in danger of depleting his reserves and dying as a result.

Did you understand why Zoro had a flashback mid fight with King? In the King flashback the creator of Enma quite literally tells Zoro swords are supposedly to be allowed to destroy as much they want

Where exactly does that conflict with anything i have said?

I don't think you understand how emma and zoro's haki works.

this was Zoro’s entire point of having this flashback… did you not pay attention to the manga?

the CORRECT WAY of using Enma is to allow it to take as much haki as it wants… Yes Zoro can stop Enma anytime he wants… BUTS THATS WRONG… He had a whole flashback about how that’s wrong

See above

the correct way of using Enma is to let it suck out your haki non-stop… So either Oden was using Enma wrong FOR 30 years by stopping it’s Haki suck… Or Oden used it correctly for 30 years and somehow has never ending haki so that Enma never affects him

Lol

Do you think lolden was in battle constantly over the course of the 30 years? Every single second of those 30 years?

You have somehow got it into your head that Emma just sucks out haki constantly all the time. That's why you keep going to this "infinite" thing over and over again.

You fundamentally do not understand how magic sword emma, haki, battles or characters work in one piece at all.

oden had Enma for 30 years and yet Enma never once sucked out his CoC

Cause his coa was enough to meet lolden's standard supposedly. That is what the manga and oda implied through the mouth of zoro.

 

[Santoryu D Bazooka]

Its just like Why didn't Rayleigh explain AdvCoC to Luffy. It is stupid.

just means he ain't a true real king i guess

he needed emma to suck out his coc for him

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