Powers & Abilities Debunking Literally Every Argument Against Ryokugyu’s Black Blade UPDATE: Remembering The Fallen
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Its a thing
There should be arc SHs vs marines
Luffy has grudge against akainu more than he has with imu .
Zolo already clashed vs Fujittora and it seems is a build up for their fateful fight.
Even if fuji doesn't stand with akainu justice but he will fight pirate and SHs for his own justice.
Now the remaining one is GB , he should fight danji other than that he will be useless.
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Either sanji or jinbe gonna fight him
And still the same for jinbe why bb for jinbe
Even lets say he fought sabo or kid or law why bb against them , it should bs vs zolo who has the most connection with bb.
And its different from sommers , here there's no good match up better , while with admiral Fujittora exist even if he didn't kizaru would be more believable to be zolo opponent than GB.
There should be arc SHs vs marines
Luffy has grudge against akainu more than he has with imu .
Zolo already clashed vs Fujittora and it seems is a build up for their fateful fight.
Even if fuji doesn't stand with akainu justice but he will fight pirate and SHs for his own justice.
Now the remaining one is GB , he should fight danji other than that he will be useless.
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Either sanji or jinbe gonna fight him
And still the same for jinbe why bb for jinbe
Even lets say he fought sabo or kid or law why bb against them , it should bs vs zolo who has the most connection with bb.
And its different from sommers , here there's no good match up better , while with admiral Fujittora exist even if he didn't kizaru would be more believable to be zolo opponent than GB.
Maybe Oda wants Z and S to fight opponents that have their own traits/stats maxed out
Kizaru - Speed, i guess Invisibility too ( Sanji's traits )
GB - sword slashes but with a black blade,
Maybe GB is also meant to be the strongest Admiral physically ( he's even taller than Akainu ), and so he has high endurance like Zoro
Makes sense if he's also more durable than Kizaru
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Maybe they won't fight and here i'm just making up parallels when there are none
But, GB having a black blade isn't that surprising cause Fuji has a confirmed Supreme Grade
Also, we know Base Kuzan and Kizaru aren't helpless as Kuzan can fist fight ( with ACoC? ) and Kizaru can sword fight and specialize in defense with barrier haki
Akainu is bound to have his own Base ability and Fuji having supreme grade seems to imply he's powerful with it in Base ( and powerful CoO )
Maybe GB's base fighting ability is also sword fighting, with strong CoA....................
..........and since Yamato and Sanji have ACoC, it can't be ruled out that Oda will give GB ACoC as well
Kizaru - Speed, i guess Invisibility too ( Sanji's traits )
GB - sword slashes but with a black blade,
Maybe GB is also meant to be the strongest Admiral physically ( he's even taller than Akainu ), and so he has high endurance like Zoro
Makes sense if he's also more durable than Kizaru
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Maybe they won't fight and here i'm just making up parallels when there are none
But, GB having a black blade isn't that surprising cause Fuji has a confirmed Supreme Grade
Also, we know Base Kuzan and Kizaru aren't helpless as Kuzan can fist fight ( with ACoC? ) and Kizaru can sword fight and specialize in defense with barrier haki
Akainu is bound to have his own Base ability and Fuji having supreme grade seems to imply he's powerful with it in Base ( and powerful CoO )
Maybe GB's base fighting ability is also sword fighting, with strong CoA....................
..........and since Yamato and Sanji have ACoC, it can't be ruled out that Oda will give GB ACoC as well
while i agree generally with what you are arguing here, the digitally colored manga being "official" doesnt necessarily mean its more accurate than the anime. both are done by other people than oda and his immediate team and are reliant on scources like you posted above like colored cover pages, promo art, etc.
Same reason Aokiji wasn't shown throwing Garp level punches all the time till facing Garp. Admirals usually use their base DF power for fodder control, while using their secondary maxed out ability for stronger foes, while awakening is reserved for all out.
Fujitora, while using his blade, only used it to channel gravity through it. And given Fujitora has a supreme grade blade with maxed out CoO, it would make sense for Aramaki to have maxed out CoA to forge a black blade, which would probably be of great grade level to contrast Fujitora's non black supreme grade.
Giving Fujitora maxed out CoO and a supreme grade while leaving nothing special for Aramaki doesn't make sense to me.
Fujitora, while using his blade, only used it to channel gravity through it. And given Fujitora has a supreme grade blade with maxed out CoO, it would make sense for Aramaki to have maxed out CoA to forge a black blade, which would probably be of great grade level to contrast Fujitora's non black supreme grade.
Giving Fujitora maxed out CoO and a supreme grade while leaving nothing special for Aramaki doesn't make sense to me.
The digitally colored manga enhances what we saw in the black and white manga: a black blade with a haimon pattern.
What Toei drew doesn’t even look like a sword, it’s a silver toothpick without even the haimon pattern clearly visible on the sword in the manga. Toei not only didn’t animate the haimon, they also seemingly didn’t even think twice about why Green Bull’s sword doesn’t look like a traditional silver bladed sword in the manga. It’s like they glanced at the page for 3 seconds and said “he has a sword so let’s draw a sword”, they paid no attention to detail at all and it shows in the abomination they finally ended up releasing.
People waited for the digitally colored manga specifically because Gigabull’s blade looked so much like a black blade in the black and white manga. People were wondering if the art simply made the blade appear black but Oda intended for it to be a standard silver haimon blade.
Then the digitally colored manga came out and reinforced the idea that it wasn’t supposed to be a silver blade, but a clearly drawn black blade.
You’re right, we should have never have had to wait for the digitally colored manga for people to acknowledge what was right in front of their faces in the black and white manga drawn by Oda lol.
What Toei drew doesn’t even look like a sword, it’s a silver toothpick without even the haimon pattern clearly visible on the sword in the manga. Toei not only didn’t animate the haimon, they also seemingly didn’t even think twice about why Green Bull’s sword doesn’t look like a traditional silver bladed sword in the manga. It’s like they glanced at the page for 3 seconds and said “he has a sword so let’s draw a sword”, they paid no attention to detail at all and it shows in the abomination they finally ended up releasing.
People waited for the digitally colored manga specifically because Gigabull’s blade looked so much like a black blade in the black and white manga. People were wondering if the art simply made the blade appear black but Oda intended for it to be a standard silver haimon blade.
Then the digitally colored manga came out and reinforced the idea that it wasn’t supposed to be a silver blade, but a clearly drawn black blade.
You’re right, we should have never have had to wait for the digitally colored manga for people to acknowledge what was right in front of their faces in the black and white manga drawn by Oda lol.
An extension of arguments I already addressed in the OP: there is no evidence that Gigabull is a fruit specialist other than the fact that we’ve only seen him using his fruit. We had no idea Kuzan could punch like Garp until over a thousand chapters in, Kuzan solely used his fruit for the first 20 years of the manga, then all of the sudden he is punching like Garp.
Just because Gigabull has only used his fruit so far doesn’t mean he doesn’t also have incredible sword skill the same way Kuzan was hiding extreme punching strength from us for twenty years lol.
Just because Gigabull has only used his fruit so far doesn’t mean he doesn’t also have incredible sword skill the same way Kuzan was hiding extreme punching strength from us for twenty years lol.
Good agree with this 👍 👌
Lol i didn't read the thread tho lol
But the problem lies that a someone who use sword as secondary/optional/additional power etc
achieves what even matters swordsmen could not accomplish—a height reached only by the strongest, Mihawk, or the strongest from a past generation, Ryuma, whose status equals Nika's.
Unless GB is prodigy of this generation
It doesn't make sense
Even rat shanks didn't reach lol
Lol i didn't read the thread tho lol
But the problem lies that a someone who use sword as secondary/optional/additional power etc
achieves what even matters swordsmen could not accomplish—a height reached only by the strongest, Mihawk, or the strongest from a past generation, Ryuma, whose status equals Nika's.
Unless GB is prodigy of this generation
It doesn't make sense
Even rat shanks didn't reach lol
I actually think the explanation lies around supreme blades. All the guys who wield supreme blades could never turn them black, with the exception of Mihawk. I think it’s probably much harder to turn a supreme blade black than it is for weaker weapons. This could easily explain why Aramaki achieved the black blade but somebody like Xebec could not, Xebec likely wields a naturally stronger sword than Aramaki’s previously unblackened sword.
In other words, I think Aramaki’s unblackened sword was probably like a good or great blade prior to being turned black. After turning black, it’s on the level of a supreme blade like Fujitora.
In other words, I think Aramaki’s unblackened sword was probably like a good or great blade prior to being turned black. After turning black, it’s on the level of a supreme blade like Fujitora.