Current Events King and queen stronger than killingham and sommers

[Screws Loose242]

After reading elbalf more than once i can confidently say king and queen is stronger than killingham and sommers. If they fight HK getting pack up the only problem is there immortality.. Now with the Omen buff from imu, idk i mean sommers block the attack zoro use to beat king easy sooooo. 😬 I'm not sure but plus it Fair to say zoro and sanji is alot stronger and omen buff did have them looking good for a bit but still. What you guys think

 

[Taolaoxitbop]

As far as the manga telling us, it’s totally true. Mosshead boi had to face the reaper to fight against King, while he’s literally practicing during a fight with his opponent i no this arc.

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

Omen Sommers/Kilingham >>King and Queen>>Sommers/Kilingham.

 

[BattalGazi]

Omen Sommers/Kilingham >>King and Queen>>Sommers/Kilingham.

Nope they aren't, they just have immortality

 

[centurion]

After reading elbalf more than once i can confidently say king and queen is stronger than killingham and sommers.

False.

Omen Sommers/Kilingham >>King and Queen

True.

 

[soheilhazrat]

Gram one shots king ( almost ) and KHam will create a nightmarish stleath black to solo queen while he drinks tea

 

[nik87]

We went through this with Lucci back in Egghead...
...some people keep thinking those who come latest are the strongest.
Zoro has not faced anyone stronger than King since Wano.

 

[soheilhazrat]

We went through this with Lucci back in Egghead...
...some people keep thinking those who come latest are the strongest.
Zoro has not faced anyone stronger than King since Wano.

Are you forgetting that the attack defeated king was overpowered by gram ? Lol

 

[nik87]

Are you forgetting that the attack defeated king was overpowered by gram ? Lol

Yes and?
You think that makes Sommers stronger than King or even Lucci?

 

[Mr. Anderson]

Yes and?
You think that makes Sommers stronger than King or even Lucci?

Yes?

Zoro being stronger than both King and Lucci with his Conqueror's Haki doesn't mean Sommers isn't stronger than them. What it does mean is that the three of them are weaker than Zoro lol.

 

[AER15]

Sommers without regen is Vergo level

 

[nik87]

Yes?

Zoro being stronger than both King and Lucci with his Conqueror's Haki doesn't mean Sommers isn't stronger than them. What it does mean is that the three of them are weaker than Zoro lol.

Then why is Zoro treating Sommers like fodder if he is stronger than Lucci or King?

 

[Mr. Anderson]

Then why is Zoro treating Sommers like fodder if he is stronger than Lucci or King?

Omen Sommers easily blocked Dragon Damnation. That is a feat that neither King or Lucci can replicate.

He is clearly the strongest of the three, so the answer is infront of you. Current Zoro treats Lucci and King like fodder.

As a matter of fact, we already knew King was fodder to Zoro since he unlocked King of Hell. The second Zoro figured out King's gimmick and unlocked CoC, he easily dealt with him.

I never thought Lucci was truly ever close to Zoro in strength to begin with and King was defeated by the very move that Sommers easily blocked.

 

[nik87]

Omen Sommers easily blocked Dragon Damnation. That is a feat that neither King or Lucci can replicate.

He is clearly the strongest of the three, so the answer is infront of you. Current Zoro treats Lucci and King like fodder.

As a matter of fact, we already knew King was fodder to Zoro since he unlocked King of Hell. The second Zoro figured out King's gimmick and unlocked CoC, he easily dealt with him.

I never thought Lucci was truly ever close to Zoro in strength to begin with and King was defeated by the very move that Sommers easily blocked.

They dont need to replicate it to be stronger than Sommers - this is what you arent getting.
Current Zoro is the same Zoro that faced King.
Zoro was lucky that King went into flameless mode, aCoC merely allowed him to negate King's physical superiority, to prevent him from slapping Zoro around with his powerful moves.

Zoro didnt need to overpower Gram to treat Sommers like trash by stabbing his heart effortlessly. He aint that easily doing that to King and Lucci. Just because Gram can overpower powerful moves, it doesnt make the wielder powerful. There is far more to combat than just that. As you should have noticed, Gram didnt save Sommers last chapter.

King would trash Sommers easily, even Lucci would.

 

[Camie]

I know people arguing hard over Sommers and King but I am confident in Killingham > Queen by far. That df of his is broken and would have easily beaten the alliance at Wano.

 

[Mr. Anderson]

Current Zoro is the same Zoro that faced King.
Zoro was lucky that King went into flameless mode, aCoC merely allowed him to negate King's physical superiority, to prevent him from slapping Zoro around with his powerful moves.

Then we don't disagree. Zoro with ACoC is stronger than King and Lucci. I don't know why you're explaining that Haki closed the physical gap to me. We already know this. KoH is a Haki based Three sword style.

Zoro didn't get lucky. King got scared and realized how powerful Zoro was. King was flinching and blocking even with his flame activated Nik. Zoro pointed this out on panel. King decided to turn on the speed mode because he knew keeping his flame on wasn't enough to beat Zoro. When Zoro proved the superior combatant in close combat, he activated his speed mode to attack from long range.

They dont need to replicate it to be stronger than Sommers - this is what you arent getting.

Yes they do? We are comparing the strength of the three antagonists and 2/3 aren't strong enough to block Dragon Damnation.

Unless you're attempting to pull mental gymnastics on the very basic powerscaling the author barely adheres to, Oda clearly did that to show how much stronger Omen Sommers is compared to previous opponents lol.

 

[Mr. Anderson]

I know people arguing hard over Sommers and King but I am confident in Killingham > Queen by far. That df of his is broken and would have easily beaten the alliance at Wano.

For sure.

 

[Novak D Jokovic]

Current Zoro is the same Zoro that faced King.

No he is not. Zoro start the fight far weaker before KOH Mode. In the middle of King's fight he became his current state but he had already received big damage and he had lost much stamina.
Now a full healthy Koh mode Zoro is against Sommers and he will need an even stronger version to defeat him.

Also we don't know if he was lucky. Lunarian ability propably has a limit. He needed advCoc to reach King to this limit and forced him to put his flames off.

Don't make the same comparison with seraphims. Seraphims propably are better versions of Lunarians and they may be able to hold their flames much longer due to Vegapunks technology.

 

[nik87]

Yes they do? We are comparing the strength of the three antagonists and 2/3 aren't strong enough to block Dragon Damnation.

Unless you're attempting to pull mental gymnastics on the very basic powerscaling the author barely adheres to, Oda clearly did that to show how much stronger Omen Sommers is compared to previous opponents lol.

Zoro cant overpower Gram and yet he is stronger than Sommers.
Same thing for King and Lucci.
They dont need to beat Sommers at his best stat, there are plenty of other things in combat that decide ones fate.

 

[Jika]

If true, very unfortunate for Zoro/Sanji fans. One of the rare instances where it would be massive downscale for both Sanji/Zoro fans.