Powers & Abilities What is this Disney ass “Sense of self” nonsense?

This is the only way Zo.l.o can get stronger with the "sense of self" aka just using plot armor, thats your princess, "mary sue" without this "sense of self" he is getting neg diffed by all his opponents, when he starts using his self plot armor he wins. Joke manga joke character.
 
This is the only way Zo.l.o can get stronger with the "sense of self" aka just using plot armor, thats your princess, "mary sue" without this "sense of self" he is getting neg diffed by all his opponents, when he starts using his self plot armor he wins. Joke manga joke character.
Unfortunately Oda has made this UNIVERSAL for every CoC user

Luffy and Sanji and Shanks and even Imu also get boosts from “sense of self” since this is the universal thing for CoC users
 
Unfortunately Oda has made this UNIVERSAL for every CoC user

Luffy and Sanji and Shanks and even Imu also get boosts from “sense of self” since this is the universal thing for CoC users
Yeah but Imu Sanji and Luffy dont rely only on coc to augment their bodies they have chosen one devil fruits modified bodys the biggest mery sues are characters like shanks and zolo who use only coc to compete with coc and god devil fruits
 
Yeah but Imu Sanji and Luffy dont rely only on coc to augment their bodies they have chosen one devil fruits modified bodys the biggest mery sues are characters like shanks and zolo who use only coc to compete with coc and god devil fruits
Yeah but it’s become increasingly clear that Oda treats DFs and genetic modifications the way he treats Zoro and Shanks having swords… They are just bonuses in combat… What really matters is the haki, especially CoC

everything is just bonus to CoC, even Imu’s Omen shit is a bonus to CoC since Oda made sure to introduce Imu with a big CoC wave first an foremost

like Oda couldn’t even have Imu just be the “ultimate DF man” with his never ending line up of abilities and Swords with magic powers… No, the very first thing Oda has to tell us about Imu is his Big CoC.

Now everything that’s happening even with Imu is filtered around the fact that Imu has Big CoC first of all

Stuff like this



Imu one handed Blocks Luffy with black lightning to remind everyone that Imu has big CoC first and foremost
 
Yeah but it’s become increasingly clear that Oda treats DFs and genetic modifications the way he treats Zoro and Shanks having swords… They are just bonuses in combat… What really matters is the haki, especially CoC

everything is just bonus to CoC, even Imu’s Omen shit is a bonus to CoC since Oda made sure to introduce Imu with a big CoC wave first an foremost

like Oda couldn’t even have Imu just be the “ultimate DF man” with his never ending line up of abilities and Swords with magic powers… No, the very first thing Oda has to tell us about Imu is his Big CoC.

Now everything that’s happening even with Imu is filtered around the fact that Imu has Big CoC first of all

Stuff like this



Imu one handed Blocks Luffy with black lightning to remind everyone that Imu has big CoC first and foremost
Imu uses many weapons and even Luffy is using the enviroment and creates his own stuff, having a weapon is not the same with having god zoan devil fruits, imus/luffys bodies are a lot stronger with their devil fruits and they are spaming abilities, luffy in g5 is fighting like a behemont, zolo shanks should have no business to compete vs these type of dudes, Loki a giant with dragon buffs and big as fuck should crush neg diff someone like zolo but then plot armor alone on the guy wont make it happen, inferiour body will hold his own with plot armor alone. Thats a mery sue.
 

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This is the only way Zo.l.o can get stronger with the "sense of self" aka just using plot armor, thats your princess, "mary sue" without this "sense of self" he is getting neg diffed by all his opponents, when he starts using his self plot armor he wins. Joke manga joke character.
i almost forgot Woro has became "stronger" with this "sense of self" against Daz Bones when he used the BoaT but we just ignore manga canon for headcanon purposes yeah?

lol zoro getting negged what is this chapter 10 against lihawk?

zoro faced admirals, yonkou, HK, gorosei and imu and still has yet to be negged... lol

we get it lanji is your favorite character will love to see your validation nonsense for why he has it
 

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Yeah but Imu Sanji and Luffy dont rely only on coc to augment their bodies they have chosen one devil fruits modified bodys the biggest mery sues are characters like shanks and zolo who use only coc to compete with coc and god devil fruits
rocks, roger, garp just to name a few....

what df does lanji have, but yeah he just relied on germa tech, raid suit and random powercreeps to stay relevant
 
Imu uses many weapons and even Luffy is using the enviroment and creates his own stuff, having a weapon is not the same with having god zoan devil fruits, imus/luffys bodies are a lot stronger with their devil fruits and they are spaming abilities, luffy in g5 is fighting like a behemont, zolo shanks should have no business to compete vs these type of dudes, Loki a giant with dragon buffs and big as fuck should crush neg diff someone like zolo but then plot armor alone on the guy wont make it happen, inferiour body will hold his own with plot armor alone. Thats a mery sue.
You can make a long list of Imu and Luffy’s df abilities the same way I can make along list of All of Zoro’s sword techniques

same thing. Weapons = Df = Genetics and they are all <<<<<< CoC for everyone

Luffy’s g5 would be useless without CoC… Imu wouldn’t even be able to pierce Luffy’s skin with his magic swords if he didn’t have CoC strong enough to break Luffy’s CoC
 

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this is Wororo W Woro
sense of self and sword master


since long ago zoro has been able to withdraw latent power and abilities against Mr.1 using the breath of all things to avoid the falling rocks, knowing and finding his sword buried under all the rubble, to cut and not at will in order to cut steel, unlock CoO and having his SWORD BEND TO HIS OWN WILL.

then again in EL agains Kaku through sheer willpower he projects and manifest his demonic aura in Ashura a literal spiritual manifestation, which expands even to his weapons.

then ffwd to rooftop piece, with every bone in his body broken and at deaths door, in dire straights desperate to protect his captain, nothing left in the tank, Woro pours every ounce of his remaining life force into a final strike unlocking CoC and scarring Kaido permanently then again against King unlocking AdvCoC

but yeah this whole sense of self is brand new and a cop out, lets keep this fucking same energy when lanji unlocks CoC randomly inb4 he ask Woro to kill him again.
 
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You can make a long list of Imu and Luffy’s df abilities the same way I can make along list of All of Zoro’s sword techniques

same thing. Weapons = Df = Genetics and they are all <<<<<< CoC for everyone

Luffy’s g5 would be useless without CoC… Imu wouldn’t even be able to pierce Luffy’s skin with his magic swords if he didn’t have CoC strong enough to break Luffy’s CoC
So you are saying the sense of self or coc is the biggest plot armor in this manga, yes this is what we were talking about, this what makes an ant like zolo compete with country busters like Loki
Other then his sense of self zolo has nothing to bring to the table his koh mode is useless and overpowered by sommers tier opponents, luffys g5 neg diffs 1000 sommers in a line no coc you will never see loki overpowered by sommers coc or not, zolo cant bring anything to the table other than plot armor his moves are ant tier.
 
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It's just about being sure of yourself.

For example when Zoro was hesitant to give Enma his haki vs when Zoro didn't hesitate anymore.

What happened then? He was able to use COC.

It does not contradict that COC's power/strength cannot be trained and grows alongside the user's growth.

It's about how they activate it.

Zoro vs Sommer's entire theme is this.

How does he activate his COC not how he can make it stronger.
 

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Sure and Usopp is a bumass but this is what Goda came up with to make them unlocking coc somewhat ''believable''
lanji left cause he didnt believe in luffy and co being able to save zeff and baratie, usopp leftdue to merry 2 completely different reasons even then usopp did everything he could to save robin and the crew from W7 to EL even saved Luffy at the end.

i guess both robin and nami are also bums right?
 
lanji left cause he didnt believe in luffy and co being able to save zeff and baratie, usopp leftdue to merry 2 completely different reasons even then usopp did everything he could to save robin and the crew from W7 to EL even saved Luffy at the end.

i guess both robin and nami are also bums right?
I wasn't talking about Usopp leaving the crew in W7 but merely about him being practically useless post-ts after 2 years of supposedely intense training.
Dressrossa is where he did the most and even then he barely did the minimum.
Sanji is also a disgrace post-ts too.
Robin is meh.
Nami is still useful at navigation at least.
 
He had it in Wano.
Irrelevant.. Zoro's not having it while he's actively training for AdCoC.. If Black Lightning was central to Zoro controlling his CoC, he would have had Black Lightning alone instead of Green Smokes while training in this chapter..

Zoro did not use KoH this chapter..

And Bird Dance in Wano make that moment very intriguing if it's not a plot hole..
 

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I wasn't talking about Usopp leaving the crew in W7 but merely about him being practically useless post-ts after 2 years of supposedely intense training.
Dressrossa is where he did the most and even then he barely did the minimum.
Sanji is also a disgrace post-ts too.
Robin is meh.
Nami is still useful at navigation at least.
everyone except luffy zoro and franky have been useless and had a horrible fall off coming into the time skip
 
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