Speculations Now that we know enough about CoC - Who else do you think has it after 1194?

[Santoryu D Bazooka]

As the title says..

I think after Mihawk Explanation paired with what Rayleigh told Luffy back then we have enough confirmation of which characters might have it in them.

-- Cannot be trained but it grows with the user itself -- (Luffy will be jesus)
-- Having no doubt is power -- (You hear that Sanji..)
-- Sense of Self -- (Unshakable Ego etc)

before naming some characters .. this chapter 1194 - 597 = 597 .. funny chapter that was

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BTW i don't mean they already have it unlocked .. just that they fit the requirements.

Sabo - Koby - Ulti - Wyper - King - Buggy - Ussop - Noland.

lets see some names

 

[ARMeni]

Weevil - 100%
Momonosuke - 100%
Koby - 100%
Sakazuki - 100%
Fujitora - 50%
Aramaki - 50%
Kong - 50%
Sabo - 50% if he fights either Akainu or a God Knight, 0% otherwise
Crocodile - 50%
Usopp - 50%
Nami - 10%
Kuzan - 0% if he's a legitimate Titanic Captain and not undercover

 

[Dragon777]

"Countless".

Oda spelled it out since DR, ages ago, but people tried to gatekeep it for the usual agenda reasons. Even when YC-level characters got it, or totally undeserving ones (according to the old, made-up standards).

Anyway, as I've been saying all along: every top tier has CoC. And most of the important characters have it too.

So yeah, the East Blue crew could definitely have it.

And just to name someone who is grossly underestimated but should be a 100% confirmed CoC user: Weevil. The dude is literally the clone of WB, who obviously had it, yet some people still push the narrative that he doesn't.

 

[Dragon777]

Weevil - 100%
Momonosuke - 100%
Koby - 100%
Sakazuki - 100%
Fujitora - 50%
Aramaki - 50%
Kong - 50%
Sabo - 50% if he fights either Akainu or a God Knight, 0% otherwise
Crocodile - 50%
Usopp - 50%
Nami - 10%
Kuzan - 0% if he's a legitimate Titanic Captain and not undercover

Agreed on Weevil, but I don't see why you'd say that for BB's crew.

Almost every CoC user has been a subordinate at some point, and all of the previous Emperors were even subordinates of the same captain: BB's father.

Besides, Kuzan doesn't even follow BB's orders when he doesn't feel like it. Not to mention the whole "taking orders means no CoC" argument has always been super dumb anyway: Rayleigh was basically the first explicitly confirmed CoC user and he took orders from Roger. Same goes for Shanks, who was literally the first character to use it, lol. Same for Zoro, same for Sanji, etc.

 

[ARMeni]

Agreed on Weevil, but I don't see why you'd say that for BB's crew.

Almost every CoC user has been a subordinate at some point, and all of the previous Emperors were even subordinates of the same captain: BB's father.

Besides, Kuzan doesn't even follow BB's orders when he doesn't feel like it. Not to mention the whole "taking orders means no CoC" argument has always been super dumb anyway: Rayleigh was basically the first explicitly confirmed CoC user and he took orders from Roger. Same goes for Shanks, who was literally the first character to use it, lol. Same for Zoro, same for Sanji, etc.

I'm not dismissing Kuzan because of the underling/subordinate argument, otherwise half of currently known users wouldn't qualify lol.

It's just that:

1. I think it would be fitting if Kuzan lost his drive after the defeat at the hands of Sakazuki

2. BB's crew doesn't give me the vibe of having any conqueror's in them besides Blackbeard himself. In fact, I think them having Maki/Omen would be way more apt, seeing as how they are all conniving schemers and sadists

It's not a powerscaling thing, as Kuzan will probably still be stronger than many CoC users even if he doesn't have it. I just find it way more interesting from a thematic viewpoint if he doesn't have it.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

What happened in chapter 597 again?

 

[Santoryu D Bazooka]

Anyway, as I've been saying all along: every top tier has CoC. And most of the important characters have it too.

Rayleigh did say that this power is "often" in those who made a name for themselves.

And just to name someone who is grossly underestimated but should be a 100% confirmed CoC user: Weevil. The dude is literally the clone of WB, who obviously had it, yet some people still push the narrative that he doesn't.

He didn't even cross my mind. But he seems to be a one track mind so maybe.

Weevil - 100%
Momonosuke - 100%
Koby - 100%
Sakazuki - 100%
Fujitora - 50%
Aramaki - 50%
Kong - 50%
Sabo - 50% if he fights either Akainu or a God Knight, 0% otherwise
Crocodile - 50%
Usopp - 50%
Nami - 10%
Kuzan - 0% if he's a legitimate Titanic Captain and not undercover

Kuzan and Crocodile seems to be like Sanji in a way.
As for Nami .. hmmm

What happened in chapter 597 again?

That is when a certain Green Haired Man was accepted to be trained. And its also how many chapter it took for him to understand his training.

in short what happened was this ""

 

[Dragon777]

Rayleigh did say that this power is "often" in those who made a name for themselves.

Exactly.
Rayleigh's statement was actually broader than Chinjao's. While Chinjao was referring to the top of the world (noting there are "countless" kings there anyway), Rayleigh went a step further, stating that CoC is frequently seen even among those who have simply made a name for themselves.

Driven by their own agendas, some fans try to overhype the exaggerated reactions from pre-timeskip scenes. However, Oda's actual words have always implied that CoC is, in fact, relatively common.

 

[Desolate Smaug]

Akainu will have it but he will be like Big Mom. He won't be actively using it offensively all the time because of how broken his devil fruit is.

Ace would probably survive if Akainu used kings haki . Kizaru for sure doesn't have it. Aokiji is probably fifty fifty but I honestly don't think he has it.
Funny enough Fujitora drive is the kind of stuff that's CoC users are made of tbh. There is no better candidate.

 

[ShinichiMugi]

I mean,in theory,every male character should have a CoC

 

[nik87]

I wouldn't be surprised if Crocodile and Enel ended up with aCoC.

 

[Levi]

Sabo
Koby
momo
janitor
shams
red servant

 

[soheilhazrat]

Sanji and zoro's BB counterparts
BB
beckman, possibly lucky roo
Momo
Fujitora
Akainu
Sabo
Law
Crocodile
Mihawk
Usopp
Nami
Maybe buggy as gag
Shamrock and garling

 

[Signman77]

As the title says..

I think after Mihawk Explanation paired with what Rayleigh told Luffy back then we have enough confirmation of which characters might have it in them.

-- Cannot be trained but it grows with the user itself -- (Luffy will be jesus)
-- Having no doubt is power -- (You hear that Sanji..)
-- Sense of Self -- (Unshakable Ego etc)

before naming some characters .. this chapter 1194 - 597 = 597 .. funny chapter that was

-------------

BTW i don't mean they already have it unlocked .. just that they fit the requirements.

Sabo - Koby - Ulti - Wyper - King - Buggy - Ussop - Noland.

lets see some names

Not many characters. In the SH I think only Sanji and maybe Usopp will get it in the future for example.
Dragon absolutely has it. All top tiers have it.

 

[soheilhazrat]

Not many characters. In the SH I think only Sanji and maybe Usopp will get it in the future for example.
Dragon absolutely has it. All top tiers have it.

Nami has already possibly used it

 

[Signman77]

Nami has already possibly used it

just a gag

 

[ARMeni]

To add some more characters that I didn't mention:

Dragon - 200%

Mihawk - 200%

Shamrock - 100%

Garling - 50%

He could still get it from the Abyss Covenant even if he himself doesn't naturally have it

Teach - 50%

The most clear and cut coin toss from any 50% character. He can work with or without, and both routes are VERY interesting.

Beckmann - 50%

His case is very interesting because were the SHs to fight the RHPs, Oda would pit him against Zoro as they're both the right hand man. However, his characterization as a chainsmoking womanizer is way more linked to Sanji...

If the SHs fight with the RHPs and Cross Guild in a three-way Davy Back Fight and we have Zoro VS Mihawk and Sanji VS Beckmann, then he has it.
If the RHPs get offscreen-diffed by the BBPs, then Oda won't bother to give him CoC.

Marine Zodiac Vice Admirals - 0%


Shiryu - 0%

Willing to bet money on this

just a gag

Oda also teased Zoro's CoC with a gag during Onigashima, so never say never.

Though Nami probably won't have it because Oda is a known sexist.

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

On the Straw Hats:

100 percent
Zoro, Sanji, Usopp, Nami

20 percent
Jinbe

Other characters:
100 percent
Koby, all Admirals, Blackbeard, Kong, Sabo, Dragon, Mihawk, Shamrock, Buggy

80 percent
Ivankov

60 percent
Shiryu, Lafitte, Van Augur

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

just a gag

a gag with jinbe, the character whose gag is that he doesn't do gags and is always a straight man with a straight face.

so its just canon.

 

[Santoryu D Bazooka]

Akainu will have it but he will be like Big Mom. He won't be actively using it offensively all the time because of how broken his devil fruit is.

Ace would probably survive if Akainu used kings haki . Kizaru for sure doesn't have it. Aokiji is probably fifty fifty but I honestly don't think he has it.
Funny enough Fujitora drive is the kind of stuff that's CoC users are made of tbh. There is no better candidate.

Agreed. Especially with Kizaru he seems to be waay too conflicted and likely even if he has it in him he won't awaken it.

I mean,in theory,every male character should have a CoC

Diabolical lol.

I wouldn't be surprised if Crocodile and Enel ended up with aCoC.

Are we disregarding that "Only a handful of strongest are able" Coat CoC? . If we for example only focus on the flow part of Haki. Old man Hyo himself admitted he can't use "internal destruction" in all of his years which means there are able with high talent and these applications comes to them with ease.