Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1196 Spoilers Discussion

[Shiroyru]

People here exaggerate heavily. It was one punch that barely fazed Imu, and he was literally screaming in agony at being blasted with Omen afterwords.

He sent Imu flying kilometers away

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

Hajrudin proves powercreep exists so idk why you’re still pushing this

hajrudin was always insanely physically strong and people have no idea how to powerscale things like sucker punches or characters being exhausted or w/e (like dorry and broggy being "mr 3 victims" and getting "unexplained powerups" when the first time we saw them they had been fighting for 100 straight years and had broken weapons)

 

[Awakening_coming]

These spoilers getting more attention than 1194 lol

 

[PuckTheGreat]

Bruh...if Sanji casually flexes FS after his decision to stop sandbagging I'm gonna lose my shit

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

he had future sight since WCI. he wouldnt have dodged the jelly bean without future sight. katakuri was literally shocked + sweating but the situation was too complex to focus on that. luffy was not able to dodge katakuri's future sight assisted attacks until he also unlocked future sight

He didn't have it lol

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

Was Goku mentally nerfed until he unlocked UI?

Say what you will about the concept, but Conqueror's Haki is at least something that has been seen regularly in the series. UI was something Toriyama made decades later with not one single build-up of it as a concept.

 

[Shiroyru]

Say what you will about the concept, but Conqueror's Haki is at least something that has been seen regularly in the series. UI was something Toriyama made decades later with not one single build-up of it as a concept.

Ok. Not really the point though

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Luffy helped him against Big Mom, also Big Mom was barely trying
Sanji was way stronger against Kizaru than he was against Vergo, plus he was nerfed against Vergo

Big mom was still trying. That was the strongest she was all arc. And okay, from blocking and blitzing Kizarus laser to getting bit by Nusjuro

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

He sent Imu flying kilometers away

He's eighty feet tall, punching a 15 foot (ish) guy.

 

[Awakening_coming]

It was heartbreaking loda kill off ace he had potential to be top 2 in the verse loved the way he used his df fiery personality
A lot of fans still love ace which is why to this day he ranks among the top in popularity poll i like sabo but he can't replace him

Discount Ace aint even close to original Ace

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

He didn't have it lol

he hasn't mastered it, but he was using future sight in that moment. that's how it works. if katakuri is using future sight to actively predict his future location and makes a predictive attack that will hit sanji in the future that he sees, and sanji still dodges it, that's future sight. cope.

 

[D. Plant]

It was heartbreaking loda kill off ace he had potential to be top 2 in the verse loved the way he used his df fiery personality
A lot of fans still love ace which is why to this day he ranks among the top in popularity poll i like sabo but he can't replace him

He wasn't meant to be. Oda gave us Red - Blue counterpart Sabo lol, and we will see what he can do.

 

[rohithkun]

It ALSO SOUNDS LIKE FUTURE SIGHT. HE STILL NEEDS COC.

It would be too many powerups at once, dont you think? It could also be a setup for a future powerups. When Sanji's speed fails him and he is unable to edge his attacks and taking damage, he can unlock future sight because he needs to avoid the damage. Hell, It might even happen with Killingham. Future Sight + CoC is overkill for one fight, let alone one arc.

 

[Peppercore]

killingham fan here, i in fact still love him, he's super hot and cutie. also sanji tends to get the more interesting fights in my opinion...at least for his character. zoro fights aren't as fun to me

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

Ok. Not really the point though

It is, actually. Because Toriyama is guilty of just making shit up whenever he wanted. Even if you can argue it may not be written in as best it may be, at least Conqueror's Haki wasn't just introduced out of nowhere by the time Wano came around.

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

Discount Ace aint even close to original Ace

We shouldn't talk about OVEN like that

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

Say what you will about the concept, but Conqueror's Haki is at least something that has been seen regularly in the series. UI was something Toriyama made decades later with not one single build-up of it as a concept.

Toriyama was one of the all time greats but no one has ever praised him for "consistency" or "lore" or "writing". he's a master of paneling and action and comedy but he never once gave a single shit about power systems or remembering characters he wrote or any details of the worlds he created

 

[Shiroyru]

It is, actually. Because Toriyama is guilty of just making shit up whenever he wanted. Even if you can argue it may not be well, at least Conqueror's Haki wasn't just introduced out of nowhere by the time Wano came around.

Ngl it’s crazy how UI manages to be a way more interesting and well written power than CoC despite CoC being around since MF

 

[Raiden7]

The name of it in Japanese, Haou, well the "Ha" part of it is taken from Chinese, where it's called "Ba" and this word was used to describe the Five Hedgemons during the Spring and Autumn Period of the Later Zhou Dynasty. The "Ba" were the premier noble of the time, basically ruling over the, by that time, figurehead King, and making sure the Dynasty went smoothly. But it wasn't five men simultaneously, it was in succession.

If it was simply just "Oushoku" or "King's Haki", I think it would be a bit simpler. But to be a Supreme King, well, that feels like it really should only be one or two people alone. A lord of kings, essentially.

I don't know about the first part, but technically "Oushoku" 王色 means "king color" or "royal color"

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Big mom was still trying. That was the strongest she was all arc. And okay, from blocking and blitzing Kizarus laser to getting bit by Nusjuro

Nusjuro surprised him, Sanji didn't expect him to transform into full Zoan and bite him like that