General & Others Isn't Sanji objectively superior to ZoLo?

#23
Objectively yes :

- Self Nerf

- No weapons

- No WSS as mentor for 2 years

- Does not train nowhere near as much as Zoro does just to keep up

Dude Sanji is ZoLo´s equal with all those disadvantages thrown at him by Oda.

ZoLo had all those privileges just to keep up with him.
Congratulations you just confirmed that Sanji the Cuck is a Gary Stu, which is why he’s one of the worst characters in One Piece.
 
#24
Objectively yes :

- Self Nerf

- No weapons

- No WSS as mentor for 2 years

- Does not train nowhere near as much as Zoro does just to keep up

Dude Sanji is ZoLo´s equal with all those disadvantages thrown at him by Oda.

ZoLo had all those privileges just to keep up with him.
Sanji just isn't that type of fighter, so the WSS being his mentor would be dumb (although Ivankov being his mentor also doesn't make a lot of sense, but eh)
 
#28
No need to be butthurt my son , apply some butthurt cream at your anus it will help.
It’s funny that you think that pointing out the obvious is being butthurt. Sanji the creepy cook always has been and always will be lesser than Zoro, so there’s literally nothing to be butthurt about.

Repeated unearned power creeps isn’t anything to be proud of, it just shows how shitty his character development and writing has been. I mean I get it, Oda obviously favors Luffy and Zoro and treats Sanji as an afterthought. That has to be so frustrating for you creepy cook followers, I mean not only was he not good enough to be on the rooftop but you never get to see any earned development with him. All you ever get are creepy perverted simping & him turning his back on Luffy and the crew.

For what it’s worth I wish he was a better character, and had literally anything to justify him being in Zoro’s league but obviously he’s not important enough for Oda to spend the time to do that. He just says they’re equal off panel, without ever showing or justifying it within the manga. Which is why he is the worst written character on the crew.

Deflect and insult all you want, it won’t change the reality of Sanji being a poorly written Gary Stu. Even Rey Skywalker has more character development & power creep justification than Sanji.
 
#30
If Sanji and Zoro are virtually equal in combat, and Sanji can also cook, Sky Walk, and spy for the Straw Hat crew while Zoro can’t even run simple errands, doesn’t that make Sanji a more useful member of the crew than that stupid mosshead who has no sense of direction?

In what way are they equal "wings"? Sanji is clearly superior.

Prince > Citizen :sanjismug:
Sanji and zoro are only equal in combat strength when Sanji as a default restrains himself by not using his hands in fights. So in reality Sanji>zoro even in combat strength. Agreed with rest of the points which further proves that zoro doesn't bring anything to the crew. He is basically a freeload, a beggar among the crew. Take him out and Luffy still becomes pirate king easily. He is not relevant to the story at all lmao
 
#31
It’s funny that you think that pointing out the obvious is being butthurt. Sanji the creepy cook always has been and always will be lesser than Zoro, so there’s literally nothing to be butthurt about.

Repeated unearned power creeps isn’t anything to be proud of, it just shows how shitty his character development and writing has been. I mean I get it, Oda obviously favors Luffy and Zoro and treats Sanji as an afterthought. That has to be so frustrating for you creepy cook followers, I mean not only was he not good enough to be on the rooftop but you never get to see any earned development with him. All you ever get are creepy perverted simping & him turning his back on Luffy and the crew.

For what it’s worth I wish he was a better character, and had literally anything to justify him being in Zoro’s league but obviously he’s not important enough for Oda to spend the time to do that. He just says they’re equal off panel, without ever showing or justifying it within the manga. Which is why he is the worst written character on the crew.

Deflect and insult all you want, it won’t change the reality of Sanji being a poorly written Gary Stu. Even Rey Skywalker has more character development & power creep justification than Sanji.
You quote me for no reason but just to tell me how butthurt you are about Sanji as character that much is obvious, yes you are butthurt for whatever reason. Also you take me as Sanji follower while in reality I dont support either in this rivalry and never did.

Its not my problem Oda wants to portray them as wings and kinda equal , why you are having problems with that is something you yourself know , probably the fact that Zoro trains hardly and constantly only to equal to Sanji who is Zoro level with 1 % of hardwork put into it.

So complain about your butthurt feelings to Oda not to me , and give him some advice how to better write those 2 characters if you dislike it so much.
 
#32
It’s funny that you think that pointing out the obvious is being butthurt. Sanji the creepy cook always has been and always will be lesser than Zoro, so there’s literally nothing to be butthurt about.

Repeated unearned power creeps isn’t anything to be proud of, it just shows how shitty his character development and writing has been. I mean I get it, Oda obviously favors Luffy and Zoro and treats Sanji as an afterthought. That has to be so frustrating for you creepy cook followers, I mean not only was he not good enough to be on the rooftop but you never get to see any earned development with him. All you ever get are creepy perverted simping & him turning his back on Luffy and the crew.

For what it’s worth I wish he was a better character, and had literally anything to justify him being in Zoro’s league but obviously he’s not important enough for Oda to spend the time to do that. He just says they’re equal off panel, without ever showing or justifying it within the manga. Which is why he is the worst written character on the crew.

Deflect and insult all you want, it won’t change the reality of Sanji being a poorly written Gary Stu. Even Rey Skywalker has more character development & power creep justification than Sanji.
Bro crying in 4k
 
#33
You quote me for no reason but just to tell me how butthurt you are about Sanji as character that much is obvious, yes you are butthurt for whatever reason. Also you take me as Sanji follower while in reality I dont support either in this rivalry and never did.

Its not my problem Oda wants to portray them as wings and kinda equal , why you are having problems with that is something you yourself know , probably the fact that Zoro trains hardly and constantly only to equal to Sanji who is Zoro level with 1 % of hardwork put into it.

So complain about your butthurt feelings to Oda not to me , and give him some advice how to better write those 2 characters if you dislike it so much.
There’s the deflection and insults that were predicted from miles away. You wholeheartedly agreed with the false premise of this thread and said it was objectively correct, and now you want to backtrack and act like you’re not a creepy cook follower.

More insult and deflection will be pouring in. You creepy cook followers know his power creeps are unearned and it’s easier to lash out than try to justify the unjustifiable.
 
#34
There’s the deflection and insults that were predicted from miles away. You wholeheartedly agreed with the false premise of this thread and said it was objectively correct, and now you want to backtrack and act like you’re not a creepy cook follower.

More insult and deflection will be pouring in. You creepy cook followers know his power creeps are unearned and it’s easier to lash out than try to justify the unjustifiable.
Yeah keep crying bitch
 
#37
still crying ? dude told you already cry to oda and leave me alone , I dont need to listen to your crap.
Are you seriously this much of a little bitch? You put your opinion out on a forum that is infamous for aggressive hostility and toxic behavior, and then you cry when somebody disagrees with you? The solution here is simple, don’t engage if you’re this fragile.
 
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#38
Are you seriously this much of a little bitch? You put your opinion out on a forum that is infamous for aggressive hostility and toxic behavior, and then you cry when somebody disagrees with you? The solution here is simple, don’t engage if you’re this fragile.
We are not in a disagreement about anything , you stated your subjective opinion which I consider a butthurt one and now you are crying about it and pestering me constantly with other quotes I consider butthurt ones.
 
#39
We are not in a disagreement about anything , you stated your subjective opinion which I consider a butthurt one and now you are crying about it and pestering me constantly with other quotes I consider butthurt ones.
lol ok kid, you keep selling that flimsy narrative to spare your fragile feelings. Feel free to respond with another insulting deflection, I know your ego needs it.
 
#40
Zoro is Luffy's ultimate hencheman. I think that's really his only role in the crew. The leadership and guidance role is pretty well distributed especially with the addition of Jinbei. The recent months though have pretty much been constant preaching of how critical both wings are to Luffy. Luffy will continue facing off against strong organisations and only Sanji and Zoro can really help him win. Without them most no 2/3 in enemy factions can just slaughter the rest of the strawhats. In that sense they are equally important
 
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