Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1197 Spoilers Discussion

[Elder Lee Hung]

People have actually been discussing Sanji’s lack of self-worth and self-destructive tendencies for years. Here are a few examples:

Exhibit A: Arlong Park Forums (2016), reckless fighting, self-sacrifice and disregard for his own life.

https://forums.arlongpark.net/topic/40052/chapter-844-luffy-vs-sanji/292

Exhibit B: Arlong Park Forums (2019), Sanji’s tendency to resign himself to death without fighting back.

https://forums.arlongpark.net/topic/29711/theories-that-don-t-deserve-their-own-thread-v-2/12776

Exhibit C: Arlong Park Forums (2019), childhood trauma, self-hatred and unrealized potential.

https://forums.arlongpark.net/topic/29711/theories-that-don-t-deserve-their-own-thread-v-2/12798

Exhibit D: Reddit (2020), self-destructive behavior stemming from childhood abuse.

https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/gzv5r3
Exhibit E: Crunchyroll (2021), self-worth and repeated attempts at self-sacrifice.

https://www.crunchyroll.com/news/fe...rful-meaning-behind-sanjis-hands-in-one-piece

Exhibit F: Reddit (2021), conditional love, low self-esteem and difficulty accepting help.

https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/ovyrln
Exhibit G: Reddit (2022), in-depth analysis of Sanji’s self-sacrificial nature.

https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/uox0vh
Exhibit H: Reddit (2023), discussion of his self-worth and repeated willingness to die.

https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/12605wh
Exhibit I: Japanese fandom (2024), a 200+ page study dedicated to understanding Sanji’s self-sacrificial behavior.

https://note.com/swim_think/n/ne68d86b013fa

Exhibit J: Reddit (June 2026), Sanji’s character arc revolving around self-worth rather than strength.

https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/1uf7a0n
The specific connection to his fighting style might be new, but the underlying characterization has been discussed for years.

Great post. Still don’t understand how this shit leads to CoC tho. Lol

Maybe @Mr. Anderson is correct and Sanji just has grossly superior armament Haki to both Kaido and Big Mom. Like this whole thing was a CoA powerup, and Sanji got CoC when he decided he wanted to protect Luffy (pretty sure he was already doing that for 30 years but whatever lol).

Honestly it’s great to see Oda give armament Haki some love, seeing armament Haki shatter a 20K weapon which Zolo’s CoC couldn’t do, really emphasizes that CoC isn’t really a brute strength powerup in the way that CoA is.

Vergo hype.

 

[kekaro]

Great post. Still don’t understand how this shit leads to CoC tho. Lol

Maybe @Mr. Anderson is correct and Sanji just has grossly superior armament Haki to both Kaido and Big Mom. Like this whole thing was a CoA powerup, and Sanji got CoC when he decided he wanted to protect Luffy (pretty sure he was already doing that for 30 years but whatever lol).

Honestly it’s great to see Oda give armament Haki some love, seeing armament Haki shatter a 20K weapon which Zolo’s CoC couldn’t do, really emphasizes that CoC isn’t really a brute strength powerup in the way that CoA is.

Vergo hype.

I mean we saw dr xebecs coc shield and it also didnt have these properties

Kinda curious whatever ability Oda decides this ability gonna be at the end, the chapter seems to be not this clean cut

 

[Bil02]

If killinghams attacks aint even touching him with a gap then its advanced coa lmfao

You dumbass dont get too choose what it is.

If the attacks still hitting sanji then its just coa.

Red Roc touched kaido yet it was supposed to be advanced CoA.

 

[Okamakama]

Our boys are both ready for the big league now

HOLY GIN UPSCALE.

 

[comrade]

If killinghams attacks aint even touching him with a gap then its advanced coa lmfao

You dumbass dont get too choose what it is.

If the attacks still hitting sanji then its just coa.

That's even more Sanji upscale. It means Sanji's CoA alone is already breaking the weapons of the 20 Kings passively, then ACoC comes on top of that.

 

[Salah WG]

This Chapter also explains that Shiryu Feat against Garp was no joke,

 

[Hiragaro]

Sanji is gonna save Goofy from another Stigma.
Imu uses Stigma on Goofy and Sanji jumps in front of him tanking that without damage!

 

[Sentinel]

That's even more Sanji upscale. It means Sanji's CoA alone is already breaking the weapons of the 20 Kings passively, then ACoC comes on top of that.

Honest question, PH Zoro vs Vergo, what difficulty and who wins?

 

[Worstgenhq]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2115399266994696646

 

[Ice devil slayer]

Does this confirms that kuzan has acoc ?

 

[comrade]

Honest question, PH Zoro vs Vergo, what difficulty and who wins?

There's a reason the green Dragon was running away from Vergo towards Zoro. Out of respect to Zoro, I'd say he pushes Vergo to high diff. Once Vergo goes full body armament with his bamboo, it gets tricky for Roronoa.

 

[Levi]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2115399266994696646

Even vegaboots agenda💀
oda be lurking…just can’t prove it

 

[Ice devil slayer]

Admiral fans getting a w too

 

[Punishhh]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2115399266994696646

Wow, so he must have brought the Vegapunk boots to Elbaf

 

[comrade]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2115399266994696646

So Sanji pulled this one, showing he can do both, dodging and taking it:

Sanji-Dono farming aura. @kekaro @Kurozumi Wiwi @Sentinel @Tyki_Mikk

 

[Worstgenhq]

So Sanji pulled this one, showing he can do both, dodging and taking it:

Sanji-Dono farming aura. @kekaro @Kurozumi Wiwi @Sentinel @Tyki_Mikk

 

[Ice devil slayer]

So Sanji acoc lightning is not as big zoros ?

It makes sense tho

Zoros lightning streaks are awfully big lol

 

[Crow]

Sanji is finally ready to face Metal D Door and Vergigago

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Honest question, PH Zoro vs Vergo, what difficulty and who wins?

This whole thing is proof that “advanced CoA” is just a myth. Base CoA can become strong enough to shatter 20K weaponry, “advanced CoA” should really just be called “alternate CoA”

Current Zolo gets extreme diffed by Vergo, Virgin CoC user vs Chad armament master

 

[Blackflamesanji]

so ACOC can counter light beam ? then why was kizaru so shocked and act like its impossible to block his laser ? does bro really never fight another top tier with coc in his life ?