Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1198 Spoilers Discussion
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First part of my theory (Imu's forms) DONE ✅
Imu blowing up someone like Usopp or Gaban (but Luffy likely bringing them back to life) PENDING ☑️
*Usopp is more likely than Gaban as they have more of a Krillin/Goku bound. Usopp was not at the scene first so I picked Gaban but it's likely Usopps role here. Standing up to Imu to save Luffy, dying in the process. Also, do remember the Usopp/Lucci scene in Enies Lobby. That time Luffy managed to save him. This time he won't be able to (until later with his powers somehow).
From: Spoiler Thread 1186. Date: 2026-06-24
Cozy Sofa:
"Luffy and Loki are no joke but most expected a bit more from Imu especially based on what he did at God Valley and beforehand on Elbaph. One can just hope Imu has a Frieza like ability to change forms and that this is only a "weak" form."
From: Spoiler Thread 1190. Date: 2026-08-06
Cozy Sofa:
"Now lets see if Imu can do his best Frieza impression, blowing up Gaban (Krillin) thus triggering a power up (Gokus first SSJ formation). Although this is OP so it will most likely not happen. But to really drive home the point of "stop fooling around" that would be the perfect scene and trigger for Luffy becoming Golden Warrior."
From: Those complaining about Imu's design haven't read the story. Date: 2026-08-21
Cozy Sofa:
"It's well known that Oda used to be a huge DBZ fan. All the big baddies (Frieza, Cell, Buu) could transform. And for all of them the last form, and the deadliest form, is the tiniest.
I would expect Imu to have at least one more monster form similar to Cell 2 or Frieza 3 before reaching his perfect form."
From: Spoiler Thread 1192. Date: 2026-09-02
Cozy Sofa:
"We actually do need one of these moments in OP. The closest we have is WB losing Ace going berserk. DBZ saw Frieza blow up Krillin in front of Goku triggering SSJ. Naruto I can't remember clearly. Kakashi and Gaara were already dead by the time Naruto reached them.
Oda could easily kill Usopp, triggering Gear 6 and with Luffys new God powers he could likely resurrect Usopp somehow. But not before kicking Imus ass."
Imu blowing up someone like Usopp or Gaban (but Luffy likely bringing them back to life) PENDING ☑️
*Usopp is more likely than Gaban as they have more of a Krillin/Goku bound. Usopp was not at the scene first so I picked Gaban but it's likely Usopps role here. Standing up to Imu to save Luffy, dying in the process. Also, do remember the Usopp/Lucci scene in Enies Lobby. That time Luffy managed to save him. This time he won't be able to (until later with his powers somehow).
From: Spoiler Thread 1186. Date: 2026-06-24
Cozy Sofa:
"Luffy and Loki are no joke but most expected a bit more from Imu especially based on what he did at God Valley and beforehand on Elbaph. One can just hope Imu has a Frieza like ability to change forms and that this is only a "weak" form."
From: Spoiler Thread 1190. Date: 2026-08-06
Cozy Sofa:
"Now lets see if Imu can do his best Frieza impression, blowing up Gaban (Krillin) thus triggering a power up (Gokus first SSJ formation). Although this is OP so it will most likely not happen. But to really drive home the point of "stop fooling around" that would be the perfect scene and trigger for Luffy becoming Golden Warrior."
From: Those complaining about Imu's design haven't read the story. Date: 2026-08-21
Cozy Sofa:
"It's well known that Oda used to be a huge DBZ fan. All the big baddies (Frieza, Cell, Buu) could transform. And for all of them the last form, and the deadliest form, is the tiniest.
I would expect Imu to have at least one more monster form similar to Cell 2 or Frieza 3 before reaching his perfect form."
From: Spoiler Thread 1192. Date: 2026-09-02
Cozy Sofa:
"We actually do need one of these moments in OP. The closest we have is WB losing Ace going berserk. DBZ saw Frieza blow up Krillin in front of Goku triggering SSJ. Naruto I can't remember clearly. Kakashi and Gaara were already dead by the time Naruto reached them.
Oda could easily kill Usopp, triggering Gear 6 and with Luffys new God powers he could likely resurrect Usopp somehow. But not before kicking Imus ass."
What are you even saying lol?
Imu's first form dogwalked mere Emperor Luffy; Loki forced Imu to use a third form and Imu even admitted he was at his limit.
If there was still some galaxy-level idiot who didn't concede to Loki being PK >>, now it's over.
About the 'standard' take, idk where you looked.
When the take was Loki being the villain, we all said it would be Luffy vs Loki, with Luffy obviously winning via a power-up.
When Imu showed up, we said the exact same thing.
We have ever had one thing straight: Loki was a PK+++ and far stronger than mere Emperor Luffy, not to mention Kaido of the Hundred Ls and Big Meme. Now that's settled.
But Luffy getting another power-up on top of what put him way above Kaido and BM will put him at that level too, finally, as you too recognized.
Imu's first form dogwalked mere Emperor Luffy; Loki forced Imu to use a third form and Imu even admitted he was at his limit.
If there was still some galaxy-level idiot who didn't concede to Loki being PK >>, now it's over.
About the 'standard' take, idk where you looked.
When the take was Loki being the villain, we all said it would be Luffy vs Loki, with Luffy obviously winning via a power-up.
When Imu showed up, we said the exact same thing.
We have ever had one thing straight: Loki was a PK+++ and far stronger than mere Emperor Luffy, not to mention Kaido of the Hundred Ls and Big Meme. Now that's settled.
But Luffy getting another power-up on top of what put him way above Kaido and BM will put him at that level too, finally, as you too recognized.
Yamato is incredibly strong... For comparison, Law got one-shotted by Kaido using the exact same attack he used against Yamato.
Kaido wanted Yamato to become the Shogun and protect Wano from external enemies in his absence.
When Green Bull, an external enemy, showed up and was attacked by base Yamato, the very first thing he did was acknowledge how incredibly strong her Haki was.
Kaido's power scaling doesn't seem THAT off.
Kaido wanted Yamato to become the Shogun and protect Wano from external enemies in his absence.
Kaido's power scaling doesn't seem THAT off.
- In Kaido's eyes, Yamato was strong enough to become Shogun and protect Wano in his absence.
- In Green Bull's eyes, even base Yamato's Haki was incredibly strong.
