Chapter Discussion ONE PIECE CHAPTER 1198: THE ISLAND WHERE MONSTERS DWELL

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

His bond with Doffy was pretty underdeveloped, all we got of it was that one scene of him smiling as he was about to die and Doffy telling him he was sorry that he sent him on a suicide mission
Vergo had the POTENTIAL to be a good villain, but I don't go off of potential sadly

Don't worry, Vergo's still alive

His head got launched to the Moon after Punk Hazard, he and Enel are bros now

I am pushing this stupid Lord Genome ass theory until we have actual confirmation Vergo is dead

"CoCking Head" Vergo and "Mo Money" Monet will free the Young Master from Impel Down...

Okay, I was joking, but now I'm imagining just Vergo's noggin no-diffing Impel Down's security and I am LOSING it laughing

Only Vergo's head remains, but he gains Adv CoC. How many God's Knights can Vergo take out as just a head?

Edit: Fuck it I'm posting this abhorrent theory in the Battledome

 

[Hiragaro]

Yeah, the wings ain't doing shit to Imu lmao

 

[Djordje]

I have him on ignore so IDK what he's yapping about

But if he's also coping then I'm not surprised. His takes are as laughable as hybrid Loki getting hypetooled this ch

yeah well you should be quoting him not me , he came up with that and I asked him where was that stated.

 

[Fujishiro]

 

[Fujishiro]

Yeah, the wings ain't doing shit to Imu lmao

Hes giga nerfed so they will.

 

[Logiko]

I don't know if it was mentionned already but Gaban knows about Luffy's fruit. Implying that Shanks probably knew as well (which confirms was we thought) and he is talking about a "moment of truth". I think he is trying to say that whether Luffy conquers this form or not will be decisive in the battle of the dawn.

I think the wording of Usopp who wonders about the nature of this "secret strategy" of Luffy is also important. My guess is that Luffy was aware of this form but was always reticent in using its full power. This aligns quite well with two idea that I developped but didn't connect:
- I thought Luffy's g5 was always a bit devilish
- I thought Luffy would be able to liberate his own body.

In this many ways, this form is a form of complete liberation. G5 was the liberation of power, this one being the liberation of the mind, going to a primal animal state, much like Goku and the Ozaru.

And perhaps, like Goku and Wukong, Luffy will have to control his impulse... through Gold?

JoyboyT is making a similar point. This form or even Gear5 would not be the real form of Nika and rather an inbetween, a manifestation of the power of the fruit over Luffy's mind. Luffy is in trance in G5, he loves the feeling, hence why he is using it so much, but in this form, Luffy still is impulsive, mistchievous, unfocused. This is why I said a few chapters ago that the genie was a point made by Oda to demonstrated how Luffy was making a mistake of ego by overestimating his own power or perhaps... not trying to understand it better.

In such case, that is the lesson of this arc for Luffy : "understand your power to control it", which Luffy has refused to do. And now, he decided to liberate this power.

So I think for Luffy, the key will be to align the will of the fruit with his own. Which should unlock what I talked about before : https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...onsciousness-and-liberate-his-own-body.87999/

 

[SkySanji]

That was just cope

Two hybrid forms is absurd. Theres only hybrid and awakening

It's not cope, it's literally what the manga says

第2人獣型
Second Hybrid Form

 

[Hiragaro]

Hes giga nerfed so they will.

Giga nerfed and stil one shot Hybrid Loki lmao
They might get to stop one attack or something, the way Oda made Goofy handle the Zaza problem just screams that it's gonna be all about Goofy...

 

[Fujishiro]

Giga nerfed and stil one shot Hybrid Loki lmao
They might get to stop one attack or something, the way Oda made Goofy handle the Zaza problem just screams that it's gonna be all about Goofy...

Loki is injured though. And he didnt one shot him we see him already on one knee heavily injured from a previous attack.

The last point is fair lol.

 

[Moewu]

Literally the previous page Kham is shocked and senses Imus haki and then we see this new form and Usopp and Hajrudin and Usopp comment on it being the end of the world.

It fits perfectly well with Usopp saying this. The community has talked for years about the theory that Usopp represents Heimdall the watchman of the gods who has the best eyesight (Observation Haki) and stands guard at the edge of the world. In mythology, when the actual end of the world (Ragnarok) begins, Heimdall blows the Gjallarhorn to wake up the gods and signal the final war. Remember that super old cover spread from Chapter 41? Oda literally drew Usopp standing on a mountain summit, blowing a massive horn while looking out at the horizon

 

[Fujishiro]

It fits perfectly well with Usopp saying this. The community has talked for years about the theory that Usopp represents Heimdall the watchman of the gods who has the best eyesight (Observation Haki) and stands guard at the edge of the world. In mythology, when the actual end of the world (Ragnarok) begins, Heimdall blows the Gjallarhorn to wake up the gods and signal the final war. Remember that super old cover spread from Chapter 41? Oda literally drew Usopp standing on a mountain summit, blowing a massive horn while looking out at the horizon

Yo thats a cool find.

 

[Ven437]

It's not cope, it's literally what the manga says

Ok I stand corrected. Didn't see this and the scans don't have that tl

But that's even worse for Loki lmao. Second form implies superior form

 

[SkySanji]

Ok I stand corrected. Didn't see this and the scans don't have that tl

But that's even worse for Loki lmao. Second form implies superior form

True. His Segunda Etapa got mopped up in like two pages. Very disrespectful by Oda.

 

[Djordje]

Loki is injured though. And he didnt one shot him we see him already on one knee heavily injured from a previous attack.

The last point is fair lol.

No need to bother , pushing Imu to form 3 is best feat ever displayed in manga ( except Imu himself of course ).

Also destroying HK Harald was already best feat someone performed in manga . Ask yourself who is strongest opponent Roger , Wb , Garp , Mihawk , Kaido , Big Mom have defeated ???

Loki is already king of feats and portrayal.

 

[Moewu]

Yo thats a cool find.

Thanks, but many people quoted this color spread in the past, so I can't take any credit for writing this. Actually there were all sorts of threads about this in this forum as well. I believe @shastar-sei has written about this before, I could be wrong though.

 

[Fujishiro]

Thanks, but many people quoted this color spread in the past, so I can't take any credit for writing this. Actually there were all sorts of threads about this in this forum as well. I believe @shastar-sei has written about this before, I could be wrong though.

I would love to read those threads.

 

[Ice devil slayer]

Imu design is fantastic

You can feel the power from him

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

It fits perfectly well with Usopp saying this. The community has talked for years about the theory that Usopp represents Heimdall the watchman of the gods who has the best eyesight (Observation Haki) and stands guard at the edge of the world. In mythology, when the actual end of the world (Ragnarok) begins, Heimdall blows the Gjallarhorn to wake up the gods and signal the final war. Remember that super old cover spread from Chapter 41? Oda literally drew Usopp standing on a mountain summit, blowing a massive horn while looking out at the horizon

Could this be Lili's Tool?

The Gjallarhorn?

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

Why did Nika show up now?

Because Nika finally found an opponent strong enough to interest them in a fight

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

Im still shocked Shanks actually beat him considering he pushed IMU this much lol

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