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L o g i a

@Zenos7 however Enma specifically relates to CoA training. Improvement in CoA is evidence in improving use of Enma and visa versa.

Zenos7

i actually dont really know this @Sword God Ryuma guy, so i wouldnt be able to judge whether he is a "shitstain" or not. But in advance claiming you will move the goalpost if necessary seems like a real shitstain move imho.

L o g i a

@Cinera as a Zoro fan, you will predictably say that he has.

Guan Yu

@WillOfMyD but how would you know that the said progress come from enma? @Sword God Ryuma could simply said that it doesn't come from enma, and he wins the bet...

Zenos7

"however Enma specifically relates to CoA training. Improvement in CoA is evidence in improving use of Enma and visa versa."

Nope.

L o g i a

@Zenos7 it is, but I don't care about that if it removes the toxic shit this guy exudes in every post he ever makes; constantly misrepresenting (deliberately) what everyone says, being one of the most hardcore Zoro wankers out there (which serves to the detriment of the forum as a whole). The means justifies the end. A philosophical impass between the two of us won't change that

Zenos7

so i can already see that even when losing you wont accept it, just moving the goalpost.

L o g i a

@Zenos7 The whole point of Enma is to force Zoro to improve his CoA. The very fact he improves in using the sword is the very fact he improves his CoA as he must improve in CoA as prerequisite to improve with Enma. I don't see how that can't be the case. I haven't done anything yet

@Guan Yu Because progress relating to CoA is directly linked to Enma at this point

L o g i a

@HA001 Nobody will ever see you posting on this status. Just fuck off already.

Cinera

@WillOfMyD: eh, whether I consider Zoro to have improved or not would depend on what Zoro shows.

Zenos7

so this bet is extremely pointless because l o g i a will just push whatever general improvement zoro makes as him improving his enma usage. And if he loses he will commit to moving the goalpost as he himself admitted here. And you accuse others of being shitstains lmfao.

Cinera

Zoro clearly improved his swordsmanship in the following fights:
* Vs Daz Bones
* Vs Kaku
* Vs Braham
* Vs Ohm

@Zenos7 any others I'm missing?

L o g i a

@Cinera except every time Zoro shows anything fanboys interpret that as an improvement. So, I reiterate again, the outcome is predictable

Guan Yu

@WillOfMyD no it doesn't not. As long as it wasn't stated that the improvement comes from Enma, you can't really claim that it comes from Enma. So it would be a paradox, one side will claim that it comes from Enma and the other didn't. That's why it's a dumb bet.

Elder Lee Hung

So basically, the bet is: if Zoro shows bigger feats than he has so far in Wano, then <User> gets banned? Who would agree to a bet like that? I don’t think anyone disagrees that Zoro will show bigger feats later on in Wano than he has shown so far?

Cinera

Zoro did not improve his swordsmanship in the following fights:

* Vs Morgan
* Vs Cabaji
* Vs Nyaban brothers
* Vs Mihawk
* Vs Hatchan
* Vs T Bone
* Vs Pacifista
* Vs Monet
* Vs Hyouzou
* Vs Pica
* Vs Killer
* Vs Hawkins

L o g i a

@Zenos7 I don't think you quite got this right. If I lose Im out of this shithole. What happens if it's ambiguous? Goalposts gotta be moved.

Cinera

The only ambiguous example that comes to mind is Vs Oars and the Whiskey Peak Bounty Hunters as he mentions difficulty using his swords in those fights, so he may have improved there.

Zenos7

"that's why I made it this way. Being so vague gives me a lot of wiggle room to move the goalposts."

I think i got this right, thanks for worrying though.

Cinera

@WillOfMyD: if the bet is ambiguous, it should remain unresolved.