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  • People actually think Loki is beating Kaido in a raw 1on1, cause his papi let him kill him, bless man.
    That delusion is right up there with the mfs thinking Luffy beats him in a 1on1.
    Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier
    Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier
    then what about harald and gaban implying that loki is stronger than everyone else and that no one else in the world could've stopped harald's rampage?
    Xione
    Xione
    @Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier They implied no such thing, yall continue to miscontrue statements to fit this weird agenda, leaving all the context that went into making those statements and what those statements actually referred to.
    Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier
    Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier
    so what exactly was the point of harald telling him to eat the fruit if he didn't believe he could defeat him?
    also harald literally says that he couldn't get past ragnir before the hk amp, yet he believes loki could, so..
    It went from Roger-Whitebeard in a different tier, to Joyboy-Imu in a different tier.

    People will never accept, Oda simply won't ever create a generation where two individuals are far above the others. Only time that happens is when people are still reaching their primes, IE Luffy's generation.

    It ain't Naruto gang.
    Chu will really have: Shouheikun, Renpa, Kouen, Karin, Man'U, and 2-3 other hidden random Qin 6 level generals. Bless bruh, bless.
    Blackbeard
    Blackbeard
    Crazy how each of these names you dropped can no diff Gyou'un.

    The EoS upscale might even have Kou En no diff SheepBumShoe.
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    My humblest apologies to Red-hair FC. Out of the non-Gorosei and Mu top tiers, he is probably top 4 in the verse, and would be the strongest in Elbaf arc aside from Mu.
    My sincerest apologies to Kaido FC and Big Mamu FC. Nobody in this arc past or present has shown to be stronger than these two in Wano. Aside from Big Mu and Saturn.
    Elbaf is probably the worst arc with Skypea or TB, in terms of personal enjoyment. Using Imu's entrance here was a waste, due to how mid the setting is.

    The Giants are bland and boring.
    Loki lost his interesting aspect the moment he started acting like a 60-year old man-child.
    The Strawhat outfits and roles are eh
    Only enjoyable aspects for me have been the GV Flashback, Nerona Imu, Luffy, some early moments.
    "The scene of Akainu and Kurouma speaking to one another as equals is super exciting!" = They aren't equals, Akainu strongest marine
    "Shoulder to shoulder with Roger-Rayleigh" = They're dead equals in powerscaling
    "Equal of even the Pirate King" = They're dead equals in powerscaling
    "Fought for 10 days as equals, but lost" = They're still equals, even if one got crippled

    Yea alright buddy.
    Idk who else thinks this, but I still think there's an actual obstacle that needs to be overcome before reaching Laughtale outside of just the coordinates. Maybe same with reaching Lodestar.

    If it was as simple as following coordinates many people should've done it before Roger, as pirates have existed for centuries and as explorers.
    Xione
    Xione
    Whether the obstacles are natural environment factors, monster(s), or AK defensive mechanisms through technology around Laughtale... who knows.

    Lodestar as well, since theoretically its just following log pose from island to island, which should be easy for any top tier. Yet only the crew with 3 solidified top tiers went to it in 800 years. Hmmm...
    Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier
    Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier
    actually it's 4 solidified top tiers, because of oden, but true
    Saying something wasn't planned by the writer, because it wasn't foreshadowed clearly, is a flawed argument. Foreshadowing isn't required to introduce something abruptly as a shock value. Sure some people have a hard time digesting something if there isn't a build up to it. But, the absence of the buildup doesn't equate to "he just never thought of it".
    If Loki is as strong as people hype him up to be what would that mean to you
    Oda fumbling
    Failed system
    Are you strongly against such powercreep
    Xione
    Xione
    The issue I feel like i'm going to run into in discussions, is the same I ran into convos with stuff like Garp vs Kaido. Where Garp simply is not as powerful as Kaido as an individual, but as a fighter it's a completely different thing. Whereas people made arguments for Kaido using his full arsenal. Same with Whitebeard vs Garp. We'll see though.
    SakazOuki
    SakazOuki
    The mural shows Loki fighting the great serpent jormungandr (prolly red line), goes well with actual mythology where Thor kills it with his hammer
    This devil fruit remained untouched for 800 years, and with an opponent of this proportion you can easily see why Loki is so powerful
    Zoro and Sanji aren’t getting anywhere near that powerful lol
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    Xione
    Xione
    I don't think it's the redline, but it could be a monster hidden inside the redline under just the Mariejois part of the Redline, which would be a natural opponent set up for somebody with Loki's size. But the difference I think is it doesn't mean that'd make Loki stronger fighter than somebody like Zoro at EoS. It'd just mean a specialized matchup that Loki would be more suited to take on.
    How many of yall would actually be mad or irked if Oda outside of the main 5 (Luffy, Zoro, Sanji, Yamato, Jinbei), assuming Yama joins... he makes the other strawhats do team fights of 2vs1 against the blackbeard pirates, with 1on1s only being for those? Or if he makes M3 be the only ones with 1on1s?

    I personally think its possibility and I would be fine with it personally...
    Man, I am so close to making some wild ass claims for Lucky Roux and Laffitte. 😭

    But I really don't wanna end up having to crows on these two later.
    Roo
    Roo
    Do it
    The first three members shown for Rock's "pirate crew" on panel were, Newgate/Shiki/Stussy. (before they went to Elbaf)

    All three fit: Zoro/Sanji/Nami molds pretty well.

    It's also the only crew that had 3 women as main members. Yamato joining would make the Strawhats the same.
    How do you like Rocks?
    Xione
    Xione
    He's a great character. Garp/Ray/Roger/Xebec are probably my favs out of the oldies right now after this flashback. Love his interactions with Harald and the whole dynamic between their relationship, though it's clear a lot of context is still missing from between the two.
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