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Sentinel
Sentinel
well, compared to our discussions in OJ, this was still nothing lol.

Veku, Admiral Lee Hung, ShinmenTakezo, kiiro94 (especially this dude) and you - the greatest Doffy defenders debating against me. We've literally debated for several months lol
comrade
comrade
You went out and wrote whole novels. That's dedication right there. And then Raito joined to nail Doffy down. And then I posted a response on comrade's behalf and after that answered as Raito to give credits to comrade, saying "while I don't agree with everything, you are quite a formidable debater". Lmao xD
Sentinel
Sentinel
That was literally the funniest shit ever with Raito, especially after I heard that you were Raito lmfaooo.
Also, me and kiiro wrote huge essays why Doffy is either great or trash. Zoro vs Sanji? Yonko vs Admiral? Pffft! Doflamingo powerlevel was the true deal.
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comrade
Yeah, it was the Doffy power level thread that lead to OJ crumbling. Lol
Sentinel
Sentinel
Just how Doflamingo's crushing defeat led to the destruction of the world balance unintentionally lol
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comrade
If Sanji beats Queen Jabura still with no other powerup than the raid suit (raid suit DJ combination), does that mean Doffy is at least YC1 and Gamma Knife did huge nerf, or did Sanji went from being fodderized by base Doffy to beating all out awakening Doffy? Note that Sanji's siblings are pretty strong in base too, getting enhanced by the raid suit but being fodderized by Katakuri.
Sentinel
Sentinel
That's why I think RS itself shouldn't give Sanji the strength to beat an opponent massively stronger than Vergo and his brothers whom even outperformed Sanji on a few stats such as lethality, striking strength and movement speed.

Thus, there is a massive gap between base Sanji/DJ Sanji and Queen as well.
Zenos7
Zenos7
i remember snakeman vs doffy thread back on OJ, shit was entertaining lol.
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Sentinel
@Zenos7 Speaking of which, Doffy vs Snake Man? :D
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comrade
Doffy, probably. I'm sure Luffy used the mode against Doffy he deemed most effective.
Sentinel
Sentinel
I see Doffy winning only because Snake Man has a timelimit in which Luffy is absolutely defenseless without haki for a few minutes. Unlimited G4th, whether it is Bound Man, Snake Man or Tank Man, or at least G4th with a good timelimit for several hours would be a huge deal in which I neither see Doffy nor Katakuri winning.
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comrade
Well, looks like Katakuri handled boundman pretty well, dodging his attacks with FS and counter attacking with power mochi. I think even for limitless boundman, he couldn't beat Katakuri. Snakeman, maybe. But the only thing that's fast about snakeman is his punches, but he himself doesn't move at great speeds but stays stationary. Even post FS, Katakuri and snakeman were trading blows for blows. So I think Kuri wins
Sentinel
Sentinel
Snake Man has to accelerate its attack several times, hence huge preparations, only to reach AP comparable to a Kong Gun which puts Snake Man on a disadvantage because he is rather static when spamming his Jet Culverin. Healthy Doffy sure can tank at least 6-8 Kong Gun level punches before he gets totally overwhelmed.

Thus, Snake Man's basic hits should injure Doffy quite good but it's definitely not enough to-
Sentinel
Sentinel
defeat him within 30 minutes. Snake Man needs more time to finish Doffy off.
Bound Man was the better choice since 1.) Luffy had to finish Doffy off very fast due to bc, 2 .) Bound Man can throw casual destructive punches towards Doffy without making huge preps for faster acceleration or something like that.
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Sentinel
Okay, you have a point. Katakuri could even win against an unlimited Bound Man since it is a bigger target and far slower than Snake Man. Kata would just overwhelm Bound Man with awakening.
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Sentinel
On the other hand, Katakuri was forced to go CQC against Snake Man since Snake Man was too fast for Awakening. Doflamingo held Bound Man off for 20 minutes but how much it is guarantied that Doffy can held Snake Man off with his awakening in the same sense? Shouldn't Snake Man be fast enough to intercept Doflamingo from using his Awakening in the first place?

A FS user had problems reacting to Snake Man's speed-
Sentinel
Sentinel
after all. People say "Kata sure is stronger than Snake Man with his awakening but he did not use it" but I don't even think that Katakuri's Awakening would be really better. In fact, this would put Katakuri at the disadvantage since he 1.) has to touch the ground to create his awakening 2.) cannot spam his power mochis fast enough against Snake Man due to point 1.
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