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Sentinel
- You're trippling atm, lol.
I'm saying Katakuri is above current Commanders, this does not include guys like Oden whose powerlevel is unknown when he was a Commander.
I'm saying Katakuri is above current Commanders, this does not include guys like Oden whose powerlevel is unknown when he was a Commander.
Xione
Enma is a sword that was hyped up specifically for leaving a permenant scar on Kaido, right before Zoro intiated the training. This after being revealed that it's ridiculously hard to damage Kaido's dragon scales.
Once Zoro masters Enma - he can damage Kaido
Once Luffy master Advanced Coa - he can damage Kaido
Their training being related to damaging Kaido.
Once Zoro masters Enma - he can damage Kaido
Once Luffy master Advanced Coa - he can damage Kaido
Their training being related to damaging Kaido.
Sentinel
- Yes, based on nothing. Marco's better portrayal in what?
- Why do you need panels for the confirmation that they trained during that timeskip? Luffy trained with the animals, Zoro did something else, Sanji was running away from the Okamas and so on. Showing two different training moments at the same time does prove nothing.
- Why do you need panels for the confirmation that they trained during that timeskip? Luffy trained with the animals, Zoro did something else, Sanji was running away from the Okamas and so on. Showing two different training moments at the same time does prove nothing.
Xione
- Did I say the strawhats aren't training? Idk why you keep mentioning this lol. Ok now you're bringing in TS training that had to do with strawhats now putting in work to grow stronger, which has absolutely nothing to do with Zoro-Luffy's training that would allow them to damage the biggest villain in Wano, that Oda highlights at the end of an Act of Wano.
Xione
Please don't degrade my point to "showing two different training moments".. My point took into account the context in which the training is happening & the relation their training has with each other. Which is not simply just "ohh hey Oda showed them training together"
Sentinel
@Xione Okay mate, then tell me something; which Commander was still above Luffy, even after he defeated Katakuri? Dead characters like Oden, whose powerlevel is unknown when he was a Commander, are irrelevant here - I'm talking about the likes of Marco and King. Are you playing dumb on purpose? Lol.
HA001
@Sentinel youre not making sense
Oda made it clear
Oden had 2 swords
One that scarred kaido
And one literally called the snake slayer famous for killing the yamata no orochi
He gave zoro the kaido sword and you say its for orochi.
Besides one of the last things zoro heard yasu say before he died was no ones been able to take kaido (not orochis) head for 20 years and that speech was on zoros head in panel.
Oda made it clear
Oden had 2 swords
One that scarred kaido
And one literally called the snake slayer famous for killing the yamata no orochi
He gave zoro the kaido sword and you say its for orochi.
Besides one of the last things zoro heard yasu say before he died was no ones been able to take kaido (not orochis) head for 20 years and that speech was on zoros head in panel.
Sentinel
- You said "show me panels of them training simultaneously" and I clearly answered. I don't know wtf you still want to hear/read from me lol.
Of course their training has nothing to do with Zoro's and Luffy's and neither Zoro's training has to do something with Luffy's. Thanks for proving my point.
Of course their training has nothing to do with Zoro's and Luffy's and neither Zoro's training has to do something with Luffy's. Thanks for proving my point.
HA001
Marco benn were above wci luffy
Shiryus a maybe
King we dont know
Shiryus a maybe
King we dont know
HA001
No it didnt.
They have been on the seas almost as long as wb yet were under him.
Shanks only 6 years in has caught up and bb a year in is about halfway to what those 2 failures achieved in their lifetime.
They have been on the seas almost as long as wb yet were under him.
Shanks only 6 years in has caught up and bb a year in is about halfway to what those 2 failures achieved in their lifetime.
Xione
Who was above Luffy? King (if his bounty is superior to 1.5 bil), Marco for sure, Shiryuu for sure, Beckman for sure, dudes like Lucky Roo for sure Luffy was weaker than. I don't know about Yasopp or some of the dudes who got their names erased from history like the Corrupt King.
Xione
Playing dumb? read your own dang post lol. You literally say "left the commander range", commander range includes Oden, whether he's dead or not. When you pointed out you were being specific, I said alright.. we'll leave that be. Pretty simple .
Sentinel
@HA001 - Yeah sure, the sword is related to Kaido and thus they gave Zoro this sword but how's this sword totally related on Zoro's goal, especially avenging Orochi for Yasu?
- Benn is even above Marco, he's no Commander either lol. But once again, how's Marco still stronger than Post-WCI Luffy? We literally have Luffy dealing with two Yonko and constantly trying to improve himself against them.
- Benn is even above Marco, he's no Commander either lol. But once again, how's Marco still stronger than Post-WCI Luffy? We literally have Luffy dealing with two Yonko and constantly trying to improve himself against them.
Xione
- I said show them training simultaneously with Luffy & Zoro, because the focus of the end of Wano Act 2, was focused on them. Not the other strawhats. Why? Because their training had direct correlation with being able to damage Kaido. The other strawhats didn't. And if they didn't, there's not point in mentioning them.
- At this point you're playing denial man lol.
- At this point you're playing denial man lol.
HA001
Wheres his goal orochi ? His goal is to free wano. If oda wanted him to focus on orochi he would have given him the orochi sword. Oda literally spelled it out with odens swords there is no way around this.
Sentinel
@Xione King above Post-WCI Luffy (his bounty says nothing about him being superior to Luffy), Marco? See above. Shiryuu, based on what? Beckmann is clear, Lucky Roo being stronger, based on what?
You are automatically putting Luffy below these guys only because you underestimate Katakuri - that's the fucking problem here...
You are automatically putting Luffy below these guys only because you underestimate Katakuri - that's the fucking problem here...
- Alright post the panels of the strawhats being shown training in parrallel to Zoro & Luffy. You claim I'm making an assumption by pointing out events that took place in the manga. But your way of countering is to bring up the strawhats.