BleakAshWow shishio such a constructive and practical post BY YOU?! AND NOT SOME HATE STUFFED SALTY JARGON?!
atleast we agree that sanji hasn't gone all out
ShishioIsBack@RayanOO Well she had just taken a massive attack to her organs then King pinned her down. Still it did next to no damage. Idk if that attack is knocking Queen out tbh
RayanOOKid attack would have pinned down and KO Queen or King. Both would have been sent away or pinned down without being able to do anything.
Sanji attack would have hurt BM but no where near KO her. She took every Law + Kid big moves without being near her end.
Phoenix D. King@ShishioIsBack Is this a joke??? 1 yonko low diffs 2 YC2s… Kaido beat Luffy and Zoro basically on his own and both are well above YC2
ShishioIsBack@BleakAsh I said both Sanji and Kidd have gone all out not that Sanji hasn't gone all out lol
ShishioIsBack@RayanOO So I don't even see that attack doing anything to King flame mode or not. He explodes and Kidd is taking significant damage.
Queen is probably pinned down without much damage..
Sure and Kidd's moves also no where near K.Oed Big Mom.
I don't see the point here
ShishioIsBack@Phoenix D. King Not every Yonko works the same way. Big Mom is susceptible to just taking hits and getting tossed around. Even Jinbei and Nico Robin did it. In the end what Kidd and Law really accomplished was push Big Mom down the hole and while the whole fight happened Law was the only one doing noticeable damage.
What exactly did Kidd accomplish there that Queen couldn't have?
ShishioIsBackAnd also iirc Kaido took out Zoro when Luffy was knocked out and Luffy when Zoro was knocked out.
And the time when Zoro and Luffy were fighting Kaido together Big Mom was helping him.
So when did Kaido 1v2 Luffy and Zoro? And it certainly wasn't low diff when he got scarred to nerfed Zoro @Phoenix D. King
BleakAshNOTHING HAS CHANGED SHISHIO... damn gotta focus up getting my hopes up for no reason 7_7
RayanOOKing doesn't have the strength at all to rise up or overpower a move that pinned down a Big Mom on steroids. Physically BM in Bigger mode is much stronger than King. And she was helpless on the ground.
I am sure you are thinking Law finisher is stronger than Sanji finisher, yet Law finisher hurt BM but soon after she was okay and ready to fight.
Kid finisher feat is great.
RayanOO@ShishioIsBack now that we are seeing Kaido going all out or near it you can clearly see he would have destroyed Luffy + Zoro on the rooftop. Him going drunk mode would erase them.
ShishioIsBackUmm how do you know King isn't physically stronger than Big Mom? Zoro who was able to physically resist Hakai for several seconds and Hakai being millions of times stronger than Kidd's beam was sent flying by King. King can literally shape shift, launch a bomb or literally just go fire form and tank until Kidd runs out of energy.
Umm but Kidd's finisher did nothing to Big Mom besides push her down the hole.
ShishioIsBack@RayanOO Umm well in reality both Zoro and Luffy were minutes away from unlocking advCoC so that's what would have happened and then Kaido would have been slaughtered
RayanOOYeah but with AdCoC they are not YC2 level anymore. So their version during the rooftop who where YC1 and YC2 level would have been beaten by Kaido even in 2 vs 1
A yonko can very well beat 2 YC2 at the same time
ShishioIsBack@RayanOO For the record both Luffy and Zoro were high YC1 level on roof top. Just because Zoro needed CoC level Attack Power for King doesn't mean he needs it for Katakuri or Marco.
Zoro did significantly better against Kaido than Post Katakuri fight Luffy did and even post Udon Luffy did.
But again if CoC Is a difference maker than CoC was never used on Law and Kidd on panel and hence doesn't apply.
RayanOOSo you agree that all out Kaido can beat 2 YC2 at the same time ? Because Kaido would have beaten Zoro + Luffy before adCOC. And for you they are stronger than YC2.
And for the record no Zoro wasn’t high YC1 level. Marco and Kata would have beat him in a really difficult fight. But that is not the debate.
Kinemon or Killer did better than Post Katakuri fight luffy, do you think they are better than him ?
Topi Jerami@Sentinel durability, Sanji > Kidd.
Sanji broke Queen's sword. Do that to Kidd and he will bleed.
Endurance, probably Kidd > Sanji but endurance is the least consistent stats in OP.
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