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Formerly Seth
Y'all sleeping on Renpa. If Moubu's 1 vs 1 strength was what people make it up to look like then everyone would fear him, no one aside fodders bothered about Moubu during Coalition War arc, Karin reaction to his power was literally: Hahaha cool. Not to mention what ManU would do to him if Hara didn't mentally held him back lol. In war, Renpa 120%, 1 vs 1 also Renpa, he definitely fought people like Moubu.
SakazOuki
SakazOuki
Thing is you have to consider that the GGF is more important than physical strength, else someone like Houken would squash both Moubu and Kanmei. Moubu is still a great general but Renpa and Ouki reached a different level of glory, so until Moubu is the hero of his time I don’t see him winning this, at least this is how the manga works.
SakazOuki
SakazOuki
Nor does he lose, they’re on the same level and will exchange equally, Moubu is an animal not underestimating him lol
Elder Lee Hung
Elder Lee Hung
Y’all are really hardcore sleeping on Moubu lol, Kanmei had the Weight of a Great General (explicitly stated), had over 100 victories across every state with NO LOSSES, and Moubu still defeated him. How many characters in Kingdom can say that actually beat someone with Weight 1v1?
SakazOuki
SakazOuki
I mean Moubu defeated Kanmei in very particular circumstances. Kanmei was busy dicing Mouten and Moubu just went bonkers, similar to Whitebeard tanking Meigou and splitting the island with Akainu lol
So as far as I'm concerned Moubu is still Kanmei level, and that still doesn't qualify him to overpower legends like Renpa and Ouki, GG who dictated the course of battle throughout China.
Not all GGF are equal
Elder Lee Hung
Elder Lee Hung
Renpa defeating Kanmei 1v1 is not likely man lol, Kanmei was a giant undefeated warrior with the weight of a GG, Renpa isn’t beating that 1v1 lol

Maybe Renpa pushes him to high/extreme diff but he doesn’t win.
SakazOuki
SakazOuki
Definitely, but Kanmei isn’t beating Renpa either. Kanmei is physically stronger but Renpa’s legend holds more weight.
Moubu’s blows still need refining.
Blackbeard
Blackbeard
As a veteran Renpa wanker, i would still say 1v1 current Moubu wins with high diff lol. He must have grown stronger since the coalition invasion.

In war where Renpa has all the 4HK the Moubu Army gets curbstomped though lol. It took the brilliance of 2 future 6GG Ousen and Kanki plus the Shin/Ouhon/Mouten coordinated attack to defeat the Wei, even then Renpa almost killed Mougou and obliterated the Qin HQ.
SakazOuki
SakazOuki
@Blackbeard Renpa was truly unfortunate during Sanyou, like he was against two Qin 6, the 2 most cunning at that, and not that he almost killed Mogou but he actually could, Rinboku closed in on HQ and all they needed was a couple seconds to clean up Mougou and his henchmen, but again that would be disadvantageous overall as Ousen had him by the balls from the get go lol
SakazOuki
SakazOuki
I don't think anyone would've performed better in such battle
SakazOuki
SakazOuki
@Blackbeard do you really believe ManU outperforms Renpa against Moubu, they basically have the same strength stat, and Renpa is a heavy motherfucker
Blackbeard
Blackbeard
@SakazOuki

Renpa's battlefield feats are unbelievable.

- Defeated a Great General that prepared to fight him for 40 years.

- Defeated another Great General who was Zhao's no. 2 and one that studied his warfare for a long time, in a 8000 vs 50,000 battle.

- Stalemated Hakuki and Ouki for 2 years at Chouhei.

- Outplayed Ousen by predicting the Wei Di trap.
Blackbeard
Blackbeard
No wonder he's used as the benchmark to other great figures.
SakazOuki
SakazOuki
In an RNG battle simulator Renpa will come out as the most successful general easily, only Gakuki can potentially overshadow Renpa.
Blackbeard
Blackbeard
@SakazOuki Probably.

I don't think Manu went all out, but it depends on whether Hara is going to show other Chu GGs stronger than him in the future.
SakazOuki
SakazOuki
I mean Renpa will make an appearance soon
:myman:
God Buggy
God Buggy
Elder Lee Hung
Elder Lee Hung
In plains warfare, Renpa may as well be the goat. In grand scale strategy and 1v1s however, it is a different story. He is mid top tier in strategy and martial prowess but there are stronger top tiers than him in each regard
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Formerly Seth
@Fleet Admiral Lee Hung I'm not underestimating Moubu as if he was some slouch. But it is clear that martial might can be reduced to atoms by strategy and more skilled and better army.

If Moubu's strength was all there is to the craft of war then people like him would rule the China. As for Kanmei hype, he did all of that and still his peers are not so sold about him.
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