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Cinera
Cinera
King's bounty probably shits on Kata's and considering bounties are primarily hype tools, King's hype is greater than Kata.
Cinera
Cinera
You place Katakuri as someone that would beat (or push pretty far) certain swordsmen, so I think he's overwanked.

I guess you might just place Old Rayleigh pretty low, but IMO Kata doesn't push him past mid diff.
Cinera
Cinera
Current Zoro should be at least a high diff for Kata. He's gonna high diff someone even stronger soon, and he may not receive another power up.

I think Kata may well be the weakest YC 1/YFM
Cinera
Cinera
* King has greater hype.
* Marco has greater hype.
* Benn is probably a low top tier as Shank's first mate.
* Shiryu is Zoro's opponent after King.
Elder Lee Hung
Elder Lee Hung
I respect everything you said, but I’d be shocked if people like Hawkins or Capone push Pageone to high diff. Daifuku/Oven should still beat them.

Bounty is not a reliable power level indicator. Kidd has 4 times Urouge’s bounty with 1/4 of his accomplishments. Bounty imo is more an indicator of how much trouble someone is likely to cause rather than their actual power level. Kuri isn’t much of a trouble caused.
Finalbeta
Finalbeta
King's kick is pretty stronk I must admit. Perhaps he is even physically stronker than Marco, but doesn't possess the same degree of DF hax.
Cinera
Cinera
Also some folks think Kata could solo King and Queen.
Finalbeta
Finalbeta
@Cinera I know of someone who could believe or buy such atrocity lol
Cinera
Cinera
@Admiral Lee Hung we haven't seen Urouge's updated bounty. I don't think bounty is a reliable power level indicator (I don't think Jack is pretty close to Kata or Queen is above him), but it is primarily a *hype* tool.

And in that regard, King's bounty gives him more hype than Kata.
Elder Lee Hung
Elder Lee Hung
@Cinera thats just effing crazy lmfao. A fight between Kuri and King is an extreme diff that goes either way imo. King having a huge CoA/AP/lethality advantage while Kuri has the huge CoO/Speed/evasion advantage. This is just what I’m assuming to be the case lol.
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TheAncientCenturion
Luffy's opponents > Zoro's opponents. It doesn't help that they share the same rank.
Cinera
Cinera
Also Kaido > BM, and Kaido's crew has been pound for pound stronger. Drake or Page One would stomp any vet (and there may be even stronger Tobi Roppo). Then there's also the numbers and Kaido specifically been mentioned as attracting many strong individuals to follow him.
Buusatan94
Buusatan94
And if there is a lesson I have learnt a long time ago about bounties is that you should be really cautious when using them as arguments since it's a deeply flawed power measure system and that many characters receive either higher or weaker bounties than they should.
Cinera
Cinera
I think it's only natural that Kaido have the stronger YC 1.
Elder Lee Hung
Elder Lee Hung
“ Kaido specifically been mentioned as attracting many strong individuals to follow him.” That should be a given for any Yonko crew right? I don’t think this specifically hyped Kaido’s crew above any others
Cinera
Cinera
@TheAncientCenturion that rule doesn't apply to past arcs:
* Pica > Caesar and Monet.
* Hyouzou > Pacifista.
Buusatan94
Buusatan94
Yep so far I am not convinced that the Beast Pirates are a stronger crew than another Yonko crew so far.
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TheAncientCenturion
But they are of the same rank and hierarchy in a Yonkou's crew. In the very same position. It only makes sense that Luffy would overcome the greater hurdle, as his ambition is greater.
Finalbeta
Finalbeta
Red Hair have the strongest individualities but they lack numbers wise
Cinera
Cinera
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