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Natalija
Natalija
@Red Admiral Physical power and reality are one thing - but if you tell me that in a universe where people have DF and haki you can't have a fighting female... You have to admit it just doesn't hold up.
Red Admiral
Red Admiral
@Don DaSlayer not true ... read neil gaiman works and you see so many many many great female characters

death in sandman is just the best
Red Admiral
Red Admiral
@Natalija I see your point , but Oda not want to make cute girls also top tiers ... is not wrong ...
Natalija
Natalija
Still have a tiny ounce of hope for Koala being more than a Sabo sidekick :')
Uncle Van
Uncle Van
Forms of entertainment is trying too hard to cater to women, LGBT etc as all they're doing is ruining their stories. RWBY, Mortal Kombat and the Last of Us have all went down the shitter cause of wokeness and ironcially, always makes the people they're representing look out to be horrible people.
Red Admiral
Red Admiral
in today west we see so many sexy , strong , smart girls ... perfect people .... that's beyond dumb ... and none of this movies ever won the people

all I'm saying is sure Oda is not giving us many strong females ... but he also did far better job then most of west in creating a real strong female like Big Mom
Natalija
Natalija
@Van Lately yes, catering in the western society. I don't like that forced bullshit either. But there should be a golden middle ground.
@Red Admiral Hahaha yet he did make Big Mom top tier - and a walking meme.
Red Admiral
Red Admiral
Big Mom didn't got more dis than rest of people ... having problems make a person real and interesting ...
that's one of my problems with Shanks ... he seem too perfect ... Oda need to give him a bad or dark side form now or his past ... to make him good character
Red Admiral
Red Admiral
the real feminism in the story is to not let our character be defined by their gender ....
I saw 1000s of story about "girls can" I know they can ... I don't need proof ... stop making all of their story about this !
that's my massage to west
Natalija
Natalija
He made her a giant baby machine though... :D which admittedly is very funny, but how do you take her seriously then
While everyone is pissing their pants around Kaido.
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh Shanks doesn't have an arm and is an alcoholic, what more do you want! :P
Red Admiral
Red Admiral
and he also made Kaido to lose 9 times ... while Big Mom was clean in that term
Red Admiral
Red Admiral
I'm talking about Problems with one "personality"

if you seem perfect now ... you need a dark past
if you seem perfect now ... you are not

that's writing 101
Natalija
Natalija
Ah. Sure, we love us some Shanks darkness.
Red Admiral
Red Admiral
most INFJ people do have that ... so I'm waiting as well
Natalija
Natalija
Hahah thanks @Van, that is EXACTLY how to write a female character.
Uncle Van
Uncle Van
I say Mortal Kombat is the perfect example of having good female characters that became bad cause of the wokeness. Plot holes galore.
Red Admiral
Red Admiral
wokeness is just white people want to tell others we are good ... there is no good out come
let the creators do what ever the fuck they like
and let the people choose what they want to buy no matter if "some groups" like it or get offended
Natalija
Natalija
But what if I love it and still consider it wrong, eh? :D I love shonen, doesn't mean it's right
Yeah, they should do as they please because it's art, it's just a sign of a bigger problem. Maybe in a few decades it'll change
Natalija
Natalija
Anddddd mind you it's not just shonen, manga in general ~
Red Admiral
Red Admiral
it's still OK ... so many comedians make fun of god or attack Islam ... as long as they make a joke that make me laugh ... I'm OK with it
if you fear some one talking ... then you fear the truth ...
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