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Natalija
So what you’re saying is Kuina is his Shanks and Mihawk is his Roger. I’m not disputing this. But mirroring is a different issue. He doesn’t act like Kuina, he acts a lot like Mihawk.
Cinera
> So what you’re saying is Kuina is his Shanks and Mihawk is his Roger.
Yes.
> He doesn’t act like Kuina, he acts a lot like Mihawk.
I agree. I'm not sure how this affects Shanks being stronger though. I brought up the Kuina stuff because you said Luffy's Shanks should be stronger than Zoro's Shanks.
Yes.
> He doesn’t act like Kuina, he acts a lot like Mihawk.
I agree. I'm not sure how this affects Shanks being stronger though. I brought up the Kuina stuff because you said Luffy's Shanks should be stronger than Zoro's Shanks.
Cinera
Luffy's Shanks (Shanks) is indeed stronger than Zoro's Shanks (Kuina), and Luffy's Roger (Roger) is also stronger than Zoro's Roger (Mihawk).
Natalija
Hahaha it’s: the person Luffy is mirroring is stronger than the person Zoro is mirroring, as we can’t have the protagonist mirror the weaker person.
But that’s just the way I see it storytelling wise.
All I am ever asking is for a benefit of the doubt for Shanks in such a battle against Mihawk. His dismissal is crazytown, hand or no hand.
But that’s just the way I see it storytelling wise.
All I am ever asking is for a benefit of the doubt for Shanks in such a battle against Mihawk. His dismissal is crazytown, hand or no hand.
Natalija
“ Luffy’s Shanks (Shanks)” :D :D :D
Cinera
> “ Luffy’s Shanks (Shanks)” :D :D :D
This was partly deliberate.
This was partly deliberate.
Natalija
In any way really, starting with not minding when something happens to him, but overly furious when it comes to nakama. It’s the drive of Luffy’s character - which came from seeing Shanks do the exact same. Possibly the most important lesson learned in OP ~
Then easy going nature, fun loving, many things.
Then easy going nature, fun loving, many things.
Natalija
“This was partly deliberate” - I appreciate it :D laughed
Cinera
Shanks appears to be an alcoholic and might be a womaniser. The mirroring between postskip Zoro and Mihawk is a lot more clear.
Cinera
* Both swordsmen.
* Both cut a large ship as their introduction.
* Both made the frog in a well comment.
* Both cut a large ship as their introduction.
* Both made the frog in a well comment.
Natalija
You don’t see Luffy mirroring Shanks? One could say it’s Roger, but they never met. And the whole purpose of giving the hat is they recognised the same in each other - Roger gave it to Shanks. Then Shanks saw the same in Luffy
Natalija
Well Luffy is simple-minded so he can’t mirror Shanks THAT much, he can’t mirror anyone HAHAHA
In turn Zoro and Mihawk (and Shanks) are very intelligent
In turn Zoro and Mihawk (and Shanks) are very intelligent
Natalija
But still you have: nakama treatment, fun loving, laid back, Conqueror’s haki, strong will
Natalija
With Shanks it fits that he loves alcohol and women, with Luffy it doesn’t since he is just clueless
Alas Oda made him so to be like Goku :’)
Alas Oda made him so to be like Goku :’)
Natalija
Oh, and for the sake of noting, I think Zoro only became even more like Mihawk after being with him for so long. Way more serious at all times and not laughing
Cinera
Yeah, the parallels I mentioned happened postskip.
Natalija
Of course, purposeful to spell it out for readers.
But they were very similar people before time skip.
But they were very similar people before time skip.
Natalija
After all, no one can top them in pride, honour and judgement, that is why I love them
Natalija
I... How did this turn into Zoro and Mihawk talk 😂