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HA001

But enma doesnt do that when its tamed.
Weve seen him slice bamboo a coastline and cut down an enemy with it and there was no drawback.

Cinera

@comrade Luffy has only deployed COA effectively against fodder, and he's not even consistent with it.

Cinera

@HA001 Luffy was predicting fodder, so maybe it's easier.

Cinera

@HA001 not really. Zoro taming Enma means that he can control how he uses it (and resist the effect to produce unnaturally large slashes). It doesn't mean Enma has stopped trying to draw out the user's COA.

Cinera

Enma still tries to drain haki, swordsmen who tame Enma can resist that effect and use Enma as they desire.

HA001

Nothing has been shown that is does when its tamed. For oden it was just another sword and so far for zoro its the same.

HA001

Besides oden was applying koka on enma from 18 - 39 on panel.
I doubt 18 year old had the haki mastery to regulate his haki considering he never unlocked acoa. Plus if enma was constantly forcing the user to do that its be constantly improving odens coa and theres no way after 20 years of that he wouldnt have acoa or a black blade

Cinera

@HA001 fair enough. Zoro did say "after I get used to it", and not "using Enma", so the effect probably isn't perpetual.

Cinera

I still expect Enma to be the first sword to get blackened.

HA001

I dont disagree. I think enma is first too. And probably this arc.

Finalbeta

CoA wise Mihawk is the best in the series. Overall strenght wise I'd still gauge WSM title above WSS.

Finalbeta

Zoro is set to become the strongest swordsman of all times and not just of this current era. Judging from his conversations with Kuina. That's the way Oda has portrayed him. ~

Kucing Pencuri

I think they just dont care to bring their sword to its peak. They already very strong.

Shanks Joestar

Whitebeard was fighing Ace (still an high tier...) in his sleep.
I doubt Kata coo is stronger than Rogerbeard.

Shanks Joestar

And IMO the best CoA in the series now are Dragon, Shanks and Sakazuki.
I always seen Mihawk a fighter more oriented in Coo than coa (still a top class coa too).

Finalbeta

For almost sure it seems Mihawk's CoA is above Prime Roger's

Cinera

@Shanks Joestar there is not much reason to give Rogerbeard > COO proficiency than Katakuri.

@Kucing Pencuri why would they care not to? WB may have had his top tier DF to compensate, but Roger had nothing beyond his swordsmanship.

Cinera

@Shanks Joestar there is zero reason to give Shanks the benefit of the doubt over Hawkeyes in COA proficiency.

Shanks Joestar

For me the best CoA feat in the manga is showed by Roger and Newgate...

Cinera

@Shanks Joestar that's a fair take. Many top tiers have yet to demonstrate the limits of their COA though.