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ShishioIsBack
ShishioIsBack
Also even if I agree with your "Cracker's CoA > Zoro's CoA" which is laughable nonsense, Zoro doesn't need equal or stronger CoA than Cracker to hurt Cracker or destroy his shields.

Luffy's CoA < Cracker's CoA yet Luffy had no problem destroying biscuits and one shotting Cracker with Gear 4th. Zoro can obliterate Cracker's CoA purely with his AP
HA001
HA001
Haki is will power.
Again crackers coa only cut luffy when he used his pretzel sword zoros swords shit on that
Kejon
Kejon
@TheAncientCenturion And you seriously think Hawkins would allow himself to lose more lives than he already did? Zoro was struggling against his Straw Monster and Oda made that clear with what he made Zoro say in that situation. But these weren't just some fodder scratches, they needed to be treated by Tsuru. '' It just means Restricted Zoro >> Hawkins not going 100%'' How you came to that conclusion is beyond me.
ShishioIsBack
ShishioIsBack
@TheAncientCenturion And why exactly is hurting boundman's CoA covered arm a great feat? Because it can tank multi building level kick from Doflamingo lmao?

Zoro casually shat all over Pica's FBH Haki with his own CoA. Law had to rely on his DF to pull off same feat. That is better feat than merely hurting Luffy which Zoro would casually take Luffy's arm off in similar situation.
Cinera
Cinera
TheAncientCenturion
TheAncientCenturion
Cracker CANNOT coat his biscuits he's not touching / in contact with, in CoA. It's how Luffy's mouth could bite down on them and eat them despite praising Cracker's CoA earlier.

No, it's Zoro's willpower specifically that allowed him to not be a shriveled up husk. Not the potency of his CoA. I'd honestly say taming Enma is more of a CoC feat.
ShishioIsBack
ShishioIsBack
Taming Enma is not a simple will power thing, Zoro had CoA reserves big enough to not turn into Husk which someone like Ashura Doji would as the blade is used to Oden's CoA, CoA of a top tier.

The first time you try to use it, it would such that much CoA out of you. Fact that only Zoro's arm was shrunk, was a CoA feat for Zoro.
TheAncientCenturion
TheAncientCenturion
@Kejon Yes.Why wouldn't he? Why would he even allow himself to lose 3 lives without doing any real damage? He doesn't have the power to stop Zoro. He's fodder. Zoro in a situation where he can't move overpowered the Straw Dumby in moments. How you can somehow distort the manga to praise such a worthless Supernova is beyond me.
HA001
HA001
@Cinera i dont day he didnt get stronger i think his haki mastery has improved but nothing points to zoro suddenly being able to tango with 1st commanders if you had him yc3 or less just because of enma.
TheAncientCenturion
TheAncientCenturion
He was able to CONTROL his CoA / flex on the sword. The only difference between Zoro and Ashura Doji is Doji couldn't maintain / overpower the sword. That's not a CoA feat.
ShishioIsBack
ShishioIsBack
Too bad Cracker himself was one shot by Luffy.

Also don't even try to go in that direction. Hakiless Hody was able to breach Luffy's Haki so the idea of stronger Haki being able to negate weaker Haki is absolutely bullshit.

Once again Zoro's CoA shits on Cracker but that's not even needed here.
TheAncientCenturion
TheAncientCenturion
Once again stop piggy backing off Luffy's feats to make Zoro relevant.
ShishioIsBack
ShishioIsBack
No that is not true. Zoro also had enough CoA reserves for him to initially use CoA and not turn into husk.
Enma's quality is that it sucks off excessive Ryou and hence no one in Wano is capable of taming it because they don't have sufficient enough CoA to survive that.
H
Haoshoku
@HA001 Could get an additional ability
Cinera
Cinera
> Restricted Zoro >> Hawkins not going 100%

Restricted Zoro too stronk.
ShishioIsBack
ShishioIsBack
How am I piggy backing off Luffy's feats? What the fuck?
That is not a feat for Luffy, he looked like shit getting his Haki shit on by Hody.

It just shows that Haki is not end all be all. That "feat" translates to every character cuz it gives us information about limitation of armament Haki.
TheAncientCenturion
TheAncientCenturion
So CoA quantity, not quality, is what's needed? So Zoro has NO GOOD quality CoA feats. Good we agree.
TheAncientCenturion
TheAncientCenturion
Every time Luffy does something impressive, like beating Cracker, you up play Zoro and now say some would be fodder Pica is stronger. Or Zoro can mid diff Cracker. It's an egregious display of downplay.
ShishioIsBack
ShishioIsBack
Huh? CoA quantity = CoA strength. What the fuck?
Zoro's raw CoA strength is far above Luffy's even currently, unless Luffy can show he wouldn't die taming Enma.

Luffy's CoA mastery is better than Zoro's due to penetration Haki.

But what you are comparing is Raw CoA level
HA001
HA001
Luffys coa has been broken or stated to be weaker than all his opponents post timeskip bar cesar dont even try compare.
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