Elder Lee HungThe issue isn’t that Gear 5 is a Zoan, it’s that it removes all tension from fights for the sake of horribly unfunny gags and makes the WG look like retards for never pursuing the once in a thousand year DF. The fact that Nika is a Zoan is like, the least stupid thing about it lol
I will take luffy fighting his way to the top over this incarnation stuff anyday.
And, G5 design is cool... can give a pass on him being a zoan...But man, you can't expect fans to take him seriously when he himself laughs for no reason while others are dying...
And, the way, oda pulled this in wano is just bad writing.
Johnny B. Decent@Reborn Obviously, it's a bit late for it now, but if Oda had used Nika instead of Joy Boy at Fishman Island, then he really would have set it up. Not that I don't think both aren't the same person, granted.
Johnny B. DecentAlso, for a.power purported to be the Sun God, curiously, he has shown no connection to the tradition powers associated with the sun, in fire and light. I presume that is the next big power up.
Elder Lee HungVegapunk’s statement “there have been people waiting 800 years for Nika” very much implies at bare minimum there has been no Nika since the AK.
Bisoromi BearOda invented his own deity so I don't see why he shouldn't invent his own characteristics for said deity
Sir YasheenIf Oda leans into the lore behind nika beyond just “We love the sun god” to explain the rest of the pantheon and the origin behind it? That’d be actually cool imo. But as it’s currently just a Nika suck fest. No.
WalnutTaxI'm happy with the idea behind a rubber hose animation/cartoon-like fighting concept. I'm unhappy with its execution because Oda isn't able to strike a fine balance between laughter and seriousness. What we really need is a moment where Luffy explicitly denies that he is Nika. He's not afraid to stand up like that; it would be perfect to say it to the giants.
Johnny B. DecentDefinitely no one in the past 50 or so years has had the power as someone would have surely said "Hey, that was once (blank)'s power!".
Bisoromi Bear@Sir Yasheen you know Oda's plot reveals are slow burners. Wait and be patient (for 10 more years lol)
WalnutTaxIf you want an example, look at Daffy Duck. He used to be an insane, hyperactive goofball. Then they made him more cynical and eventually arrogant + narcissistic. Now he's back to being crazy. It's all about how Oda decides to interpret Luffy and the boundaries he set with gear 5.
Mr. ReloadedI was more bothered by Luffy's fruit going from a Paramecia to a Zoan, so yes I probably would be more open with it.
RebornOda build Luffy as a character...His seriousness when shit gets crazy
Wherever he went, SHs made name for themselves
But now...
When Nika shows up, Luffy as a character disappears
Now it's not about SHs or Luffy but just about Nika
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