I think every generation sets the benchmark for strength. He was for sure strongest in his prime. Roger and Garp probably surpassed that level and later WB.
If Roger and Prime Garp are slightly above Prime Kaido I don't see it as issue if Xebec was at Prime Kaido level. Kaido thinks very...
You just don't kill an admiral. My Boy Xebec was the real deal.
That said I really feel like Xebec and his ties to BB is a new thing that Oda just came up with recently. Surely this wasn't part of his plot when he set up the Teach and Ace conflict and later marineford. Surely the stakes and...
I think in Rogers crew Ray and people like Gaban legitimately has leadership authority on the ship..The crew has some young members and the senior guys actually command them even in cases where they are not in battle.
The SH crew though is a crew of captain and equals. Zoro only takes charge in...
We have seen some insane babies in the past. We got Big mom and Oden in the past and now we have Loki.
Where do you rank Loki? His feats as a day 1 baby is pretty insane. I think he is for sure the strongest baby followed closely by Oden.
I think Kaido and maybe Harald too fit this archetype of...
what are you talking about. All Gaban attacks since he fought Luffy and Zoro have had those black lightening that show COC usage!
And what do you mean he didn't deal with Sommers? he injured him enough to make him unable to regenerate for a while. If it was a proper 1 vs 1 he would have moved...
I don't think CoC is needed for the demon army. Maybe only the actual 3 knights need to be defeated by CoC. Hence the monster trio. Loki could be used to suppress the demon giants given his size alongside some of the SHs.
If Sanji doesn't awaken his CoC then I can see Loki taking on one of the...
this is the new copium. Honestly wouldn't be suprised if both Sanji and additional person in the crew got it. Roger pirates at their peak had 3 plus Oden. SH will likely have 4 +yamato.
I don't think he is down played by anyone. if anything most people assess his strength correctly. There is no way Shiryu is stronger than Kuzan. Kuzan rivals BB himself in strength. There is a reason Kuzan is always being treated as an outcast in the crew. It's only Zoro fans who try to wank...
Isn't Zoro though a distant relative of Ryuma. I think Oda confirmed one of the Shimotsuski lasses married Zoro's dad and zoro was born out of that union. I don't think it would be outrageous for Zoro to surpass Ryuma, Oden was already on course to do it and that's a level Zoro will easily...
Mihawk isn't PK level mate.
Plus saying Shanks was challenging mihawk is disingenuous when in fact the little interaction we have between the too it looks like it was Mihawk seeking Shanks for the fights.
plus Ray/Gaban can defeat the HK even in old age. didn't we just see Gaban Two shot one...
What's even killing the more is how Gaban has been confirmed to have advanced forms of haki including CoC. They really didn't want any chance of Sanji ever having CoC. This is the biggest blow to their agenda imo.
I think every sane Sanji fan acknowledges Ray is slightly stronger than Gaban. Zboys thought are delusional with takes like Ray Mid diff.
Oda though absolutely killed their hopes when he showed Gaban using advanced CoC. At this point it's more less guaranteed Sanji also gets it. This is the one...
Oda is milking the wings/ arms of PK thing to the fullest. Every few weeks he drops some form of it that leaves the Zboys fuming and frothing at the mouth.
He is good as a utility crew member and he is decently strong too. Utility in the sense that he can put out fire, control currents and stuff and like that plus he is deceptively smart and well informed in world affairs. He is severely lacking though as a 1 vs 1 combatant to he honest. Especially...
even with the Gaban revelation and a Sanji fan I still think Oda may give him CoC but be ambiguous if he is using it in fights. it's the same with CoA right now, it's never clear if Sanji is using haki. we just know he is using it.
For sure though he will get confirmed to have CoC.
Bro cooked. I think the idea here is to have SH and Loki resolve the conflict. Gaban being present is important for after arc narrative but he needed to he removed from the story as a fighting force.
That said does anyone really think Gaban is fully out. He'll probably fall near the monster...
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