Let's not bring up their stamina as a counter-argument after everything they produced after Big Mom's attacks. It is unnecessary to talk about this any further.
Kaidou didn't do the same thing to Law that Shanks did to Kid, as then we wouldn't have seen him join Kid in the fight against Big Mom...
Oda was seriously able to spit us in the face with the fact that they were able to use Awakening throughout, but he derogated them, because alas, it straining them, they only use it on the verge of death. Both of them were in plenty of position to use it.
What's more, they were even good quality...
Anyway, how should I interpret the statement "Snake-man is not enough"?
Maybe it doesn't hurt Kizaru?
Or do some people really think that Kizaru is so hyper-super fast that Luffy can't even come close?
Because I think both are excluded factors, otherwise I don't see how Gear 5 would be...
But I'm talking about these clear revelations: How do you know that Luffy switched to Gear 5 because Snake-man wasn't enough? We don't know the details, other than Kizaru kicking Luffy, which may also give a completely different impression than the early spoilers portray.
Anyway, why wouldn't...
However, I wouldn't draw such far-reaching conclusions from 2 sentences of spoilers, but anyway, as I see on this forum, this is quite common.
Gear 5 is the new face of One Piece. Luffy can now unreasonably pull him out at any time, as we saw against Lucci. There was a problem? Not for me...
I understand, I'm just saying that these early spoilers are more like giving an idea of the chapter, in most cases they soften it quite a bit or give a completely different impression, even if the information itself is not a lie.
And no, I'm not saying this because I'm a die-hard Yonkou fan and...
People, stop being so stupid.
The spoiler only says that somewhere during the chapter, Kizaru kicks Snake-man Luffy, and then at the end of the chapter, Luffy switches to Gear 5. Do you think that this is all that happens during the entire chapter or battle and nothing else between the two events?
However, it is not necessary to put Luffy on a pedestal either. I don't think the Gear 5 has put it in a position to beat anyone from now on. In fact, if I want to be really teasing, I'll say that he would still easily lose against a fresh Kaidou. It wouldn't be a one-hit, but the battle...
Indeed. It would be the pinnacle of story writing if, after bitterly defeating Kaidou, the new Yonkou and his gang were defeated by an admiral and his fleet. Luffy's commanders would also suffer with those vice admirals, especially since 3 of them are worth more than a billion.
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