Why bring up zoro in conversations that has nothing to do with him? I'm not downplaying Rayleigh. He's just an overrated bum that has done nothing significant in his career other than being Roger's loyal dog.
1) He literally has no significant individual achievement. All his hype is about him...
Ray isn't a top dog like those u mentioned. He is just an irrelevant bum. If Ray ends up fighting a lower end level HK only then he is guaranteed to win. Ray isn't guaranteed a win against anyone from Rocks pirates or Garling or Garp
Teach became a Yonko after he got WB territories and when he became the boss of pirate island.
shouldnt have wasted my time arguing with you if that's what you think
When did I say oden below gaban?
Portrayal and feat wise he's above both. Only the only reason people put ray above him is cuz he was PK right hand, which btw is a stupid reason. You are delusional to think Ray is better portrayed than Oden
Shakky only meant that Rayleigh would be fine because nobody on the island is strong enough to best him. She never implied anything about navy/admiral failing to beat him.
A half serious holding back Kizaru made Rayleigh look like an asthama patient within 2 minutes. Full power Kizaru mauls thru...
Law took those hearts after everything had already happened on rocky port. Wang zhi was strong enough to give Teach the yonko reputation. So yes there is reason to think he was stronger than them.
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Rayleigh coc diffing Wang Zhi? When he couldn't even KO pre-ts Law and Kidd...
Lol who said that? Rayleigh matters more than wang zhi who made one of the final villains in OP(Teach) rise to Yonko status?
Stop deluding yourself.
Who said Roger pirates won? The only statement we have is that Garp+Marines+Roger pirates broke apart the Rocks pirates.
That's a better...
Ok, so as I said Kuzan's involvement is doubtful since the timelines don't match. Law is the mastermind of that incident, he's guaranteed to have major role in Wang zhi's fight.
Bro literally everybody on GV wants to win Shakky, even the manmayer family. Does that mean Rayleigh is gonna fight...
Look at the way Teach was talking with Law and Koby, it's clear they both were heavily involved with whatever happened against wang zhi. Kuzan had already teamed up with Teach by that point, but you're right I can't say for certain what type of involvement he had.
When did I say Rayleigh won't...
Huh?
What I said is literally in the manga. You guys are overestimating Rayleigh if u think oda would feed Garling to him. Garling is more protected by oda than anyone else from GV incident. Besides Ray is a subordinate, he won't take on the leader of HK.
The problem is, it's you who thinks he is a no name pirate.
Within the verse he is held in the same standards as Shiki (a Roger rival) and Silver Axe(Shiki rival).
It took YamiGura Teach + Kuzan + Law + Koby to deal with a deathbed Wang Zhi, but sure keep deluding yourself that he was no name...
If Wang zhi was the one to kidnap shakky then there's something that he wants from God Valley, most likely a DF. He probably takes one of the DFs from GV, beat Ray and then left because he was wounded.
I genuinely don't think Shamrock has the same access of Imu's powers as Gunko. Gunko has just been treated differently. It's like Imu handpicked Gunko for some reason to be his proxy.
I think when Imu uses someone to be a proxy, then they are guaranteed to lose control of their body. So even if...
It was already clear since the moment she appeared alongside Shamrock that she's the second strongest of the HK. Could potentially be even stronger than him due to being Imu's proxy but for now I'll give it to Shamrock because of garling tax
What a shit fucking website. Half the pages don't even load properly. is it confirmed in the chapter that Wang Zhi kidnapped Shakky?
If so, then Rayleigh and Wang Zhi about to have a generational mid off on God valley
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