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If I dont show up before EOD, which may happens, GL town, if game feels hard, and you're butting heads way too hard with someone, i recommend stepping back and considering if your friction is because you both have genuine beliefs that are clashing in a town way. Somewhat read my argument with...

I am busy IRL so I dont really have the time to really reread early days, but it is the day to reread the entire early game next day too, I know I've been negligent with this (mainly because this forum software is a bit ass to do quick rereads + being busy) but I urge people to mainly read how...

if we flip red or SK I will target according to my own reads, if hayumi red though likely to target orca regardless.

It's actually possible that SK hit a scum protective too here, I think that's possibly on the table here as well to add to the setup theme chaos? Scum having protectives, where town only has a bodyguard, makes sense to some extent. If hayumi flips town, massclaim absolutely has to happen next...

I think this is important, at the very least, leaving alone any sort of claim related shenanigans is wise in this setup from what I can tell thus far. don't let yourself get biased into a scumread on someone claiming a disruptive role.

@The Orca why are you not self preserving and voting hayumi? @York @Fujishiro why are you voting hayumi over orca here?

I trust that the SK should be playing to their wincon which is not letting mafia get a majority before they can win. If town is doing poorly, they are obligated to shoot as if they were a town vig.

because as mafia if you have a roleblock, you surely just leave alexis alive to disrupt the obvious clears of fuji/york here and block them instead.

if Hayumi or Orca flips SK, and we soft confirm that it was mafia who killed Alexis, then it may soft confirm that all the role interference roles are on the town side potentially, which I can see as a gimmick to get town to kill eachother for soft ccing roles.

I think if Hayumi flips non town its exactly SK fwiw. Socially there is no way they are scum here IMO still.

If there are 5 mafia and 1 SK in this setup, then this game was fucked from the start. regardless, SK should be helping us to narrow down scum instead of shooting for town at this point if they want *any* chance of winning.

I'm the sucker who's being tunneled by you and other townies.

I do not think both SK and scum would target Alexis here that is a bit absurd

Actually I do not wonder.

With regards to AM, I am getting some level of cold feet because their cluelessness is starting to come off as if they are an uninformed party - would depend on meta for me at this point if its a viable scumread still, as a baseline I would say no. It's also because AM gained this town...

@Hayumi I still think you are more likely town, but at this point in the game I can't really fight it because it would be extremely unhealthy for the gamestate plus I think (personally) that we have the wiggle room that if you die as town we can still win.

the simple fact is that it points towards you being wrong on me, and I'm the sucker being left alive so you can miseliminate me.

michelle why are YOU alive as town if I know you're a strong lategame townie and you're suspecting me, and I have control over the nightkill?

just as many townies called me town than called me mafia lol

why hayumi over your JK target?