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So because he's the strongest in elbaf and Gaban basically says he's really strong, that makes him above Zoro and Sanji, even after any possible powerup this arc? And that's the reason he can't join? Forgive me if I put more weight in Luffy's invitation and fixation on him than that.

I don't have to prove Gaban didn't fight Loki. The burden of proof is on you since you're the one claiming he did. And the only evidence you have is speculation/headcannon. And for all we know, Gaban just meant that Loki also has CoC so he can damage the holy knights. None of what you're saying...

I never said the M3 don't matter. Don't make up strawmen. All Gaban said was "Shanks was the one that stopped him. No one was able to do it until then". To claim that means Loki>Gaban requires proof that Gaban tried to stop him. You're just assuming it, which is headcannon. So far, all we know...

This power level stuff is pointless. We can't extrapolate how strong he is now based on what he did as a baby, that makes no sense. All Gaban says is that Shanks is the one who beat him. He doesn't give a list of people who tried and failed. And a 2.6 billion bounty is lower than Kid and Law...

Good to know we can at least agree on that:kata:

Most hated character or most hated agenda? Ussop is my most hated character, but his fans don't annoy me. Pre timeskip Zoro is my favorite character and I still like post timeskip Zoro, but the Zoro wankers annoy me more than any other fanbase, so I think it should be him. I don't know what the...

We already have a shipwright though. Loki would have to be something else.

I'll do a bet on something besides avitars. I only come here for new nakama debates. I joined for the Jinbei debate and left after egghead because I thought no one else would join, and I only came back because Luffy invited Loki. I'm probably not sticking around after elbaf regardless of what...

Gotta love when powerlevel is the only argument against a new nakama and they haven't even fought yet. " Based on how strong he was as a baby we can extrapolate how strong he is now, and since shanks was the first one to beat him, that means ONLY Shanks could have beaten him." That's literally...

13 members in the Roger Pirates is interesting. My guess if there are 3 more is Loki, Yamato, and someone else I don't know. Maybe Bonney still has a chance, or Hancock since it makes the most sense for her. It seems like too many though. I still think it will just be Loki.

Lmao. Remind me where Luffy invited Wyper to join and threatened to whoop anyone who has a problem with it? Or even bonded with him at all? The only possible reasons for the level of cope ya'll have about this are trolling or Zoro/Sanji powerlevel agendas. It's unreal. I don't even...

Going great! Got a baby on the way which is exciting, and just a year left in my MRI tech program. How about you? Also, not going to bother responding to 20 individual posts about peoples headcannon of how strong Loki is disqualifying him. Call me when he actually does something. For now, he...

"Hey Loki, Join my crew! I think it'd be fun with you! If anyone has a problem I'll whoop em!" "I can't wait to see him fight" Yeah, really sounds like Luffy has no legitimate interest in Loki, it's just situational.

Just read the oficial translation. "I think It'd be fun with you! And if anyone's got a problem I'll whoop em". Imagine saying that's not a real invite.

Luffy wouldn't have invited him if he didn't want him on the crew. He would never make someone his nakama just because it was temporarily convenient.

Being Harjudin's vice captain seems beneath him since he's already invited to join the main crew.

"Loki can't join because we can't have two crew members that love Elbaf!" "Loki can't join because my headcannon says he's too strong" "Loki can't join because he has a hammer" People are really struggling to try and find any way to deny it. Meanwhile Luffy: "Hey Loki, join my crew!"

A very strawhat backstory so far. An outcast just because of his appearance. A father who was killed in front of him, presumably his mentor figure. I assume it was God's knights, maybe Shamrock who killed him, a personal villain for Luffy to fight here. And Harjudin seems destined to become king...

I don't care enough to continue this because neither of us is going to change our minds. We'll see what happens soon since the flashback is starting.

1. Bounty =/= strength, even croc passed 1 billion. Strawhat bounties may be higher after beating God knights here too. Also, source needed on that fight being what made Shanks a yonko. 2. So what? 3. Source on him having no desire to leave? We barely know him. You could have said the exact same...