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    General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet

    The goal is to open Wano to the world. That presumably means people can come and go freely, and more than likely will call for envoys to head out from Wano and bring back goods and knowledge to rebuild what was destroyed by Orochi's pollution. That would be right up Yamato's alley, speaking...
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    Yamato has a lot of wishes, and there's no telling which way they'll lead him once the battle is over. Becoming Oden, allowing Momo to bring the dawn, going out to sea, opening Wano, being free. Do they all coincide with being on Luffy's crew? Maybe. Could any and all of that happen by joining...
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    The motivation lies in why Yamato wants to go. To explore? To escape? To save Wano? To be a part of Luffy's crew? And because of Oden, or because of Yamato himself? There's still a lot of uncertainty about Yamato's top priority, not to mention how Momo and everyone else Yamato thought were dead...
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    Even in that sense, its an argument in such bad faith. They have completely different motivations, which goes for their stowing away as well. Carrot wanted to help and be part of an adventure. Caribou wanted to capture everyone, and clearly isn't planning to stop taking advantage of people. That...
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    You're comparing a twisted self serving freak to an uncompromising friend. How disingenuous can you get?
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    Yamato asked for a ride on Luffy's ship, not to specifically join.
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    So why hasn't Oda removed her from the plot by now? Why not have her defeat Perospero already and be done with it? Why keep Pedro dead and on her mind? Why have her a part of the Straw Hat's reunion with Jinbe? If she's not important enough, why does he keep her around and unfinished with her...
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    Carrot's getting back up, that's a fact. She has Pedro's last words in her head, and won't let Perospero dictate her actions. We'll see what she's able to achieve and what it ultimately leads to, but I'm still convinced being a Straw Hats is one of those very real options.
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    I'll be happy to stop explaining my personal choice as long as others stop being incredulous about it.
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    First, that doesn't address my point that we don't know how Yamato knowing Momo and the others are alive may or may not affect his future plans. Second, Luffy isn't Yamato's captain yet, so it's not the same situation. And third, there's a lot more to Yamato helping Momo and Shinobu than just...
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    Yamato clearly didn't narrate every word of that flashback out loud for Momo: one of Ace's men mentions Yamato being the daughter of Kaido, but later on Yamato specifically says he forgot to mention his relation with Kaido to Momo. So again, we don't know as of this moment which of Yamato's...
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    The key word there is "flashback". That was Yamato's motivation before Momo came back into the picture, and since then Yamato has pledged himself exclusively to Momo's safety. The issue is whether that devotion will extend beyond the battle or not. Maybe it won't, maybe it will, And even if it...
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    The original argument was, "Jinbe fought alongside all of them. Carrot is fighting alone." Jinbe did not literally fight right next to every Straw Hat on Fishman Island. He still hasn't fought side by side with Usopp or Franky or Zoro. But both he and Carrot have worked with the crew before...
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    The only one? You forget about Shinobu? Luffy distinctly asked Yamato to assist her with the task. I've talked to you about the subtext of the WCI scene before, and clearly we still don't see eye to eye on it. But again, the way I took it was not just about asking for them to do a job, but...
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    How is that not working together? She took out most of the ships, he took out one, and he got them both out of there. And Luffy asked Carrot and his crew to wait for him. Emphatically. Oda took two pages to draw out the importance of what he was asking of them. Asking Yamato took one word...
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    Both battles had equal amounts of cooperative and independent tasks, same as now. Carrot and Chopper worked together against Brulee, Carrot and Brook worked together against Daifuku's fleet, and Carrot and Nami worked together to escape Big Mom's Homies. And if you want to talk about weak bonds...
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    Same as how Jinbe only met some of the Straw Hats at Otohime's grave, and they weren't all there. Both images show them united, back then and now.
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    Again, it's great you can be so confident. Embrace it. You're off to a great start, don't worry. I think you connected that point quite well. I was on board with Jinbe long before Luffy asked him to join, in the arc where dozens of characters were showing off their strength. That wasn't what...
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    Certainly we will see, but I can't imagine her choosing to follow Perospero's advice (Run back to the woods where you belong) over her mentor's (Keep moving onwards). 1615984911 He's saving the best for last, that's my opinion.
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    Which is what happened on WCI and what could be coming soon. That's what I'm waiting to see.
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