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Yeah none of that changes what I said though I'm afraid. Luffy hasn't mastered his either (or at least he shouldn't have), we can't just pretend there are a bunch of equally op awakened df users so Luffy's powerup isn't bs. Oda had chances to show us what awakenings should look like, and using...

Of course he was going to awaken. People assumed it would be gigantification, or making the environment rubber like any other paramecia ability. But he got both, and then also added another dozen broken abilities and labelled it all 'freedom' in his fighting or some bullshit. I don't care that...

And look how that turned out. What I meant by 1v1 was essentially 'not die fighting kaido, maybe even win'

Because pirate king doesn't mean 'strongest in all the lands'. You know there has to be struggle in some form in the story. If Luffy can now low-diff every fight Oda's just going to put some other handicap in the way of him steamrolling through every situation.

If Zoro comes back from the dead and awakens as Ryuma without knowing or trying and becomes op enough to 1v1 kaido then sure, these situations are comparable. If Zoro happens to achieve similar things as Ryuma through effort and other regular means it's just parallels. We need to see how Zoro's...

Isn't it kind of the opposite? Oda's clearly justifying fans' concerns that Luffy could actually be taken over. He must have thought it was somewhat logical that Luffy could have been taken over by joyboy/nika based on how bullshit recent events are

I think this only remained possible while Queen was a thing. Focus on grim reaper rn honestly

Yeah I agree. If it was so complicated it would be difficult to master in exchange for high power ceiling. Luffy didn't need practice like with Gear 4 so it's pretty much just omnipotent breaking of the laws of physics.

Where did Zoro get his infamous bandana?

Completely disagree. Being satisfied with shallow power-ups isn't enough anymore. Zoro's being treated like a cardboard cut-out. At this rate, his character will never be dived into in any meaningful form. As much as I'd like to say Oda's waiting for the right time to give Zoro a real arc of...

Depends on what Op-op fruit can do with CoC vs what Nika fruit can't do without CoC

ZKK: -Concludes Oden, Ushimaru, Yasuie, Hiyori, Toko, Ryuma and samurai as a whole's desire and necessity to keep Wano and it's people safe, "take Kaido's head", avenge others who were killed/starved for the past 20 years. Zoro has ties to all of these people, Luffy doesn't, nor does he share...

Why would you want a symbolic and built-up climax of Wano that honours the groundwork laid out earlier in the story when we can have our lord and saviour Luffy make everyone else redundant and somehow defeat the undefeatable Kaido without killing him or imprisoning him, since that's impossible...

It's a powerup that brought Luffy back from the dead to defeat Kaido 1v1. It would be repetitive to have a time limit as we already saw that so much with G4. It hardly matters what the drawback is if all of Luffy's opponents are defeated by the time it comes about. If the drum heartbeat stops...

My question is what the hell did df-less top-tiers like Roger or Garp have or do to contend with broken df abilities? If Prime Garp or Roger were to fight Luffy I think a lot of people still say Luffy loses, but how? Luffy gets what every other character has + magic bs, the playing field is not...

Probably Blackbeard's darkness fruit. It will have chosen him like the gomu gomu chose Luffy or whatever

You're not helping your case as a dumbass it seems.

And here you are bitching anyway. You quoted my comment and called my shit hyperbole. If you can't even defend a simple point maybe you're the idiot here. If there's no point discussing, don't discuss.

You think I was exaggerating? How so?

Yeah he controlled Enma at the right time, never argued that. Sanji barely beat Queen, which is not something to brag about, stop deflecting.