Yeah that’s why I included Luffy. I’m a Luffy fan but I’m not delusional lol
For most of the pre timeskip I’d say they were pretty much on par
Post timeskip it was off and on but ACoC + G5 created a gap and I’m not sure if Zoro can overcome it
We’ll see
I kinda feel bad for Zorobros
They’re stuck in the eternal hellscape of being paired with Luffy before being pushed down with Sanji, rinse and repeat
The wings title just made it even worse
It was Sun God, War God, and Sword God vs Imu
Now it’s Zoro and Sanji vs The Holy Knights
:josad:
Zaza’s gonna be a raid boss that Jinbei Usopp and co take out probably
As for Zoro Oda typically just doesn’t care tbh. He just fights the strong guy that he has little to no connection to
Except King and Queen weren’t really viewed as threats at the time either. Thats the argument I’m trying to make
A major issue that people had with Wano (especially at the time) was that it felt like there was no tension throughout the whole war. People are trying to change the narrative now...
A standard has been established, you just don’t find it convincing enough which is fine. But don’t act like it doesn’t exist
Most of the things that you listed either barely serve as hype for them or were contextualized over the course of the fight
King being a Lunarian was meaningless until...
King’s portrayal prior to fighting Zoro was awful
He was coming from getting absolutely embarrassed in a 1v2 against a Marco who had already expended energy holding off the Ice Oni virus
King and Queen’s respect in the fandom was at an all time low. Let’s not rewrite history
You can’t bring...
Zoro vs King had no real payoff narratively until the final 2 chapters of the fight
Like every metric people use to determine whether a fight is good or not also applied to the Calamities that people ended up liking (when Oda locked in on them)
“Sink or swim type tension” Right, the same...
I don’t fully agree with that tbh
Super Sommers only looked bad against people that were far above his pay grade anyway
Oda made King look like a scrub even when he jumped Marco with Queen
Nobody really respected King strength wise until his fight with Zoro
Can he draw on people’s fears that easily? I guess he did it for the giants of Elbaf so there isn’t really a crazy limit to it
There are some cool things Oda could do here
Hard to see how spamming MMA’s would work against a speedster like Sanji
He can shift around them and attack the main body
But I doubt we’ve seen everything Killingham can do in combat anyway. Wouldn’t be surprised if he had a way to counter that especially with Omen
How is it a downgrade especially for Zoro
What narrative connection did he have to King? He didn’t gain anything from that fight that he couldn’t have had against any other antagonist
The difficulty of the fight was the only barometer
And don’t forget, Zoro fans complained a lot before the...
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