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See this is what i mean about disingenuous. How can I take your arguments seriously? 1752893914 I think you answered your own question. Did Franky end up joining? Sure did.

Im at the point where I don't think the weakling Trio will show any significant haki until climax of the final battle or some post story wrap up. So youre free to use that but with what we've seen from the Elders and God Knights, Luffy and co. will need more fire power in the immediate ranks to...

Franky survived being hit by a freaking sea train. Using strength feats isn't an accurate assessment of a characters qualification for the crew. Jinbe was seen as stronger than Luffy and the wings for his entire recruitment. Luffy asking in a joking and a serious as well as intrigued manner...

Let's stop this madness. His feats so far as seen amount to that of Nami lightning strike by Zeus. The dude's been tied to the floor half the dang arc. I feel like ya'll are trolling now frfr.

That's what youre using? By that logic Whitebeard was powerless to go against Kaido thats why he allowed Oden to fall because he didn't move on Wano the moment it happened. But now we know its more complex than that. Kaido and Newgate are former Nakama, so there's a complexity here as well...

Loki has been portrayed as on par with Gaban and Rayleigh? This is why I use the term disingenuous. Okay, let's play this game. Franky was portrayed as on par with Luffy the first time they fought in Water 7. Why is he in the crew?

You have yourself a bet 👍🏾

So you willing to bet your account he doesn't join this arc?

I'll need to preface my post by saying im a staunch Zoro has always been First Mate believer and its apart of his character arc, since first telling Luffy he'd cut him down if he got in the way of his dream. This later evolved into "Nothing Happened". I believe another escalation will happen in...

You're highlighting something with Shanks i forgot to mention. Shanks in essence has become Loki's extra connect to Luffy. Like Ace and Laboon. As far as crew roles, with Oda confirmed main crewmembers of Roger pirates. I could see Loki being their Tortuer or Tactical Officer like Moon Issac...

Since when is Oda inconsistent about Luffy's intuition about characters though? Even when we're led to believe Loki is a POS he's treated with respect and interest from Luffy, the escalation to genuine care is when I started to notice where this was going. Then he flat out asks him.

There's also the fact Loki fits the criteria of being an outcast in the island Luffy met them on. Not even Vivi and Yamato. Zoro, captured Bounty hunter (irony) Nami, the pirate traitor (To her village) Ussop, the liar Sanji, the good for nothing chef (to Zef) Chopper, the monster Robin, the...

I feel like the Loki and Yamato comparisons are alittle disingenuous. Luffy never really had an interest in Yamato as a candidate, outside of acknowledging they weren't a threat upon first meeting. Even after finding out about their connections to Ace didn't change things. Luffy offered a spot...

Yamato's cover story is coming off like Jinbe's solo adventure. Their stock may sky rocket soon.

I still think if Yamato or Carrot had half of what Bonney has going for her, Kuma's death or not, this thread would be progressing quite differently. The only true wild card in all of this is Vivi tbh. If this was 2010 or 13, Bonney would be head and shoulders the favorite.

Not to beat a dead horse but I also find it interesting how outside of a golden aged Coney, Bonney has rarely had consistent positive adult female role models in her life since her Mother whom she never knew sadly passed at her birth. Perhaps another coincidence but she has yet to spend much...

I still think it's insane how understated Bonney's transition has been from just another vaguely interesting one piece side character to central focus along with Kuma and how I'm sure there will be substantial outrage if Oda has her join the crew. But I cannot ignore the development and how it...

Since we're certain that it's Bonney at the paw, it means nothing now I bet.:choppawhat:

I believe it's disingenuous to still hold potential Nakama candidates to the same to the tee standards as members 1 through 8. Someone pointed out Jinbe for example. If you re read Fishman Island's flashback, Jinbe is a mere witness to the lives of Otohime and Tiger, who he's the most...

I feel aside from the amazing point about Bonney being an amalgamation of previous assumed nakama candidates. Including being a Princess like Vivi, technically. Daughter of a famous pirate like Yamato. Potential real time tragic loss of mentor or relative if Kuma dies here like some thought...