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The only thing that disappointed me is that we didn't see Ouhon/Shin fighting Jiaga/SBS. Sometimes you just get your ass kicked, so a short arc ending in defeat is ok.

I'm rereading Gyou and I found this funny as fuck :suresure: Will Ousen execute himself? :willight:

Ordo is probably at home with PTSD after all the ass kickings he has suffered :josad:

I dunno, he said there's something he has to do no matter what, sounds like he'll try to retrieve Shiryou's body or something like that. We'll see what happens.

Looks like Sou'ou is going on a suicide mission, so Ousen really lost everyone.

In exchange for Ousen taking the biggest L in history numbers wise and getting all his generals killed? I'm a Shin fan and I'll take it lol.

Who will be Qin's chief of military ?

Ouki can't be blamed for the loss because he gave the correct orders but Moubu disobeyed him like a dumbass. Ousen can be blamed for the loss because he didn't do shit. You tried to make a false equivalency between the two situations where there exists none. I recently reread the chapters in...

Prime Shin+Prime Mouten = Invincible unless you outnumber them like crazy. Perfect instinct + perfect strategy.

You brought up Ouki and I brought up Moubu, because he's relevant to what happened at Bayou. You don't dictate the terms of the discussion or what can be brought up or not. Ousen said "don't fall for it" when he didn't know it was Riboku the one who appeared right there, a few panels later he...

Qin will only be able to attack Zhao again because they will be hit by earthquakes and famine. So basically Riboku will be defeated by divine intervention :suresure:

Lol, no. Ousen's responsibility is head and shoulders above Shin's and Akou's. Ouki wasn't responsible for Bayou because he SPECIFICALLY TOLD Moubu not to pursue beyond the view of Qin's HQ. Moubu disobeyed his orders and did it anyway. Ousen was perfectly fine with Akou pursuing Riboku, saying...

Li Xin's son Li Chao was a Han dynasty general, and in fact even participated in the uprising against Qin under Peng Yue according to chinese wikipedia. Several other descendants were generals during Han, and even under the Xiongnu lol. Li House was huge eventually so there were a lot of guys...

Taku-san, Bihei, Denyuu :pepemotion: Ten and Garo can die for all I care though.

Shin's son was one of Liu Bang's generals, I find it quite unlikely that he'll join any war to protect the corrupt Qin empire. If Sei was still alive, I could see Shin fighting to protect his friend, but after Sei's death, Ri Shi and that faggot eunuch will usurp power and force Sei's crown...

Agreed. Shin will look good even in defeat, just like Ouki and Kanki did in theirs (minus dying and all lol). I just hope Hara doesn't kill too many HSU guys I like (pls don't kill Suugen) :crazwhat:

Nah. The "4 generals of the warring states" come from a children's literature piece, not from historical records. Renpa, Riboku and Ousen are all considered to be below Yue Yi (Gakuki) for example.

And Shin is going to be better than him :finally:

I don't think Hara will pull the Ouki-Kyou situation again, but if Kou En kills Qin 6 Kyoukai (I'm assuming she would be Qin 6 by then), then yeah, that would be :crazwhat:

It can't be worse since Ousen just lost the biggest amount of Qin soldiers in any battle, and lost all his generals to boot lol. Doesn't get any worse than that.