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  1. Logiko

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    Uh no. That's the point, if we are talking about the final stage. There won't be a ruling class. You may be confused based on the attempts at communism. But these are not actual state of transition, more like capitalist state versions. But granted, what is true is that communism (the...
  2. Logiko

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    "A relevant degree" You are such an open book lol
  3. Logiko

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    You must be so intelligent GalaxyLevelShanks. I went to university but that was a long time ago. And for the second question, this is irrelevant.
  4. Logiko

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    This needs a big answer: The domination and the ethics. On one side (fascism), you have a violence created to dominated marginalized and overall everyone that is not the elites and the ruling class. Based on hatred, completely disregard for the reality of the world and ethics. On the other...
  5. Logiko

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    Plot twist : I have only been speaking just to keep the first place all this time. I actually don't believe in anything I've ever said. Well, that's a collective work to do. Not one person holding the leach while dominating the workers. A revolution. Can be peacefull or it can be bloody...
  6. Logiko

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    Money will still exist, but it will become less and less necessary Factory, restaurant, barber shop. People are all creating value, said value is what the production is made of. Socialism is simply the idea that workers should be collectively deciding how they should work. Right now, people...
  7. Logiko

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    lol i'm first
  8. Logiko

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    A dog wouldn't be happy with me at the moment. Perhaps a cat in a few years. We will see.
  9. Logiko

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    True, but it doesn't make me wrong tho :GoodLuck: (damn, I'm sad this emote was created now)
  10. Logiko

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    self owned :catsure: :blobevil:
  11. Logiko

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    This gives us everything we need to know about your ethics. This too (you see what I meant guys when I talked about the link between ableism and capitalism but also productivism ? This is a blatant case of eugenism linked to productivistic ideology) Your country was ruled by far rightist...
  12. Logiko

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    Taxes are perhaps meaningless to you, but they serve the community. Going someplace else to play less tax, is basically saying "I want the benefit of my society without the drawbacks and without givin something in return if I can". That's unethical. But looking at your vision of the world...
  13. Logiko

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    If you do that to evade taxes. It's by nature, unethical.
  14. Logiko

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    Seems like you don't understand the meaning of the word "ethics"
  15. Logiko

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    If you prefer, the production is the value of what you produce through your work. So it's englobs more than just what factories in other countries are doing. When you go to work, you produce.. it's the power behind that production that we need to give to the worker. For exemple, someone working...
  16. Logiko

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    At this point... if you are maga and you are not starting to question things a little, you fell for a cult mindset and there is pretty much no hope left. Lmao The guy is comparing himself to jesus while his goons are quoting Pulp Fiction thinking they are quoting the bible..
  17. Logiko

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    Some hope... yeeey :goatasure:
  18. Logiko

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    Seizing and collectiving the means of production on major scale necessarily implies the creation of a socialist society. There is no such thing in another model.
  19. Logiko

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    Nah. you raelly don't want a jedi order to rise. At least not the type that existed in the old republic.
  20. Logiko

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    "I" don't want you to have that. I fell into conspiracy theorism once, I know how destructive it is. There is no need to seek conspiracy theories when you know how the world work.
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