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actually the wording of the jan implies you dont even learn the role so wow polar way to make the game harder for town smh. also yeah that role was 100% pro scum utility and 0% chance polar shot for scum, and shot for townreads as they were likliest to be his wincon. so 4 mafia i think is like...

shame we didnt geta claim from polar although maybe the lack of claim implies naomi had a confirmable action

I'll think on this, havent gotten much sleep past few days because ive been super busy. Need the incative players to give their full worldview at this point and explain their process throughout the entire game. I'll do this myself and map my entire progression as best I can to explain why and...

ok so Polar had 4 shots of kills to start. I presume they just shot to hopefully win early with 2 early kills and then went on to holster to flavor hunt?

also this one so its close to my quoted kills

vote Ratchet i'll drop this here for now as pressure while I orient myself

requoting deaths for my own convenience

well at least that mystery is wrapped up, although a little too late. orca is soft clear for being blocked so many times in a row. i presume hayumi was scum's expected deepscum since luka kill seems most motivated for being a threat to hayumi

also the post you quoted where panda said that kweh was good, I think they were trying to help town with the jan kill bc they knew they were about to win and had figured out kweh's flavor the night before

yeah but it says it was disabled so they didnt win that way, they won via heathcliff I think

i think my post got eated befor ethat one, I researched and the antagonistic characters are all the scum flavors and the protags are among the town flavors, including heath. so its safe to presume kweh was town

ok nvm heathcliff is town, kweh is town

they shot n1 and n2 and holstered until they were sure

3p flip says they have limited kills and flipped without their infinite kills on

I think this is massclaim time fwiw

requoting these for visibility

My immediate thoughts are Ratchet/AM, moreso AM. or just a solo AM. Any chances Naomi was scum there?

right, and scum would presumably need some sort of counterplay.

anyone familiar with this flavor know if theres a pattern in flavor that can let us determine if Heathcliff is a good flavor?

jag flip had me a bit demotivated, esp since my existing PoE relied on jag being scum there