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Dunno, the past two chapters have been pretty hellbent on saying Urek probably has no equal within the tower. We have this priceless gem here from narrator. Don't think SIU is dumb and doesn't know what he's doing with this when he wrote it.

TOG is all about fucking potential and growth, that's why we have Baam as protagonist and not some random new irregular who had the same growth rate as the family heads and Z in the past. There needed to be an irregular with more potential than Zahard to defeat him and that's Baam. Urek's...

Remind me again which family head cares about V? Gustang forgot him pretty quickly, only remembers Arlene well and he's irrelevant to Traum and Arie Hon and he weren't friends same with Edhuan and Ari Han. Same with Ha and the others, he has no relevant connections with any family head or...

This may sound surprising but V and Arlene did not take on Z and the other family heads combined. It was Zahards forces that eliminated both V, Arlene and the entirety of his forces. It was not a 11 on 2 situation so V and Arlene along with their forces lost pretty overwhelmingly against...

Downplay the dude who got killed and lost his entire forces to a far weaker Zahard and couldn't stop his son being personally killed by Zahard and also couldn't save Arlene? Same Arlene who had to save both her dead lover and son's souls because V couldn't step up? Imagine my shock when the...

Everything alludes to that, wym? V is never referred to in the same power bracket as Zahard after revolution, Gustang who is the greatest piece of knowledge for readers didn't allude to something like that when describing him. He just called him the worst person he ever knew, he was more evil...

Before revolution. This is the main point people miss, upon revolution onwards all we know is that Zahard became some untouchable monster in the group, after this point V has no arguments or solid ground to still put him as equals with Zahard. Dude couldn't stop Z from personally murdering...

I agree with ya. Also some people may need to take a step back from the agendas ngl as it's getting much too cloudy up there a bit. Even I am guilty sometimes admittedly but this one is simply too absurd. The first noob tier technique we learn in this series after learning to sense and...

It means zilch actually. Baek Ryun is ranked much higher as is Adori who is number eight. I don't believe there's anybody sane who believes either of them beat the family heads. And SIU's blogs literally stated that the reason why some towerborns rank higher than the family heads is because...

Sure, I can see the sentiment behind what you say. But there's one problem, Gustang isn't a lazy jack of all trades master of none type character trope. What he knows he makes sure he knows to the absolute extent of it's limits, his character is like that. No lazy studying.

Baseless? Unless Luslec is stated to be the person containing knowledge of the most powerful spells in the tower or to be the greatest spell caster in the tower then why would he not have far less knowledge than Gustang who is touted for being a top 3 most knowledgeable being in the tower...

Lord give me strength cause what the hell man. Saying that because of spells Luslec can defea Valhalla is amazing because fucking Gustang who's far more knowledgeable in spells than Luslec and far more superior in tiers of power couldn't just willy nilly cast some immobilization spell or...

They've been riding off of Baam for a while now tbh. He's their only hope of them ever achieving their dreams so he grants em relevance just by association. Basically without Baam, Jinsung and White absolutely nobody would care about FUG as a whole. Karaka was the biggest clown in the tower...

It's not tough to be honest. FUG, it's slayers, members and elders have been receiving constant clowning for a while now. From Karaka to White to Jinsung then to Yama and everyone else. They've been clowned on repeatedly and that won't change when Urek clowns Luslec too, it's freaking Urek...

This ain't even a maybe situation, he's far greater than all family heads including the strongest one. Established very early on. I'm guessing you have followed the series closely in a while huh.

Oh fuck yeah baby. Its cominggggggggggg :funky: Punk that delirious bastard for me Mazino:myman:

I'll say they go from a point of relevance and uniqueness bar the absolute strongest. Black March as we know it now for examples is a vague plot device.

Yesssssssss. Fucking YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Traum has a stronger body by tiers beyond Dumas, you seem to forget this and therefore could crush him with ease physically. You don't need to be a physical monster on the level of Urek to accomplish crushing a bug as a family head. Once again, Dumas is weaker than 10% Urek without Shinsoo...

The fact you believe Dumas could push Traum into using disconnection, a skill he only brought out after being deep into his fight with another family head who was pushing his shit in at full force is insane to me. That would have to mean Dumas could manhandle Traum without disconnection which...