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Again this is dumb 😂😂😂 ur willing to say that king was dumb enough to just turn off his flame when the manga tells you that it was because he was scared of zoro and what he could do to him, the seraphim backs this logic as they are not stupidly turning off there flame… wait until luffy bust out...

1.no 😂😂😂 this was about zoro noticing that king was blocking his attacks in flame on mode are you blind to the panel where zoro says OHHH!!! That’s why zoro proceeds to question king WHY BOTHER BLOCK MY ATTACKS UNLESS YOU ARE SCARED OF WHAT I CAN DO TO YOU. all the while the practically...

1. So zoro lied king didn’t make a scared face after zoro called him out in his practically invincible mode ??? That’s not a manga panel ?? 2. obviously I never said zoro did it or insinuated it… I’m saying look at king the lunarian with a practically invincible mode he was the one that...

And that way for luffy and zoro to make them turn off there flames is to scare them with adv coc haki that’s all I’m arguing here…. I have said in a post to you before that others can beat them like for instance if s shark turns his flame off I believe sanji is fast enough to defeat him in that...

Well by this logic the perfect little seraphim beings will just never turn off flame on mode and yonko luffy finna just lose all his stamina and take a major L here because he is not using adv coc same for zoro 😂 this is so dumb u have luffy yelling out to these kids the flame won’t go out… u...

What’s crazy is you can headcannon that king made a stupid decision and turned off his flame which lead to his defeat… and yet u can ignore zoro entire statement at the end of the fight that because of what he can do now ( adv coc) king is finally scared of him even with his flame on show me a...

Just to add I just checked viz and saw the sound…. Garp was already moving before shiryu unsheathed his blade does that not back up the notion that garp used fs and saw that koby was gonna get stabbed ? While sanji who doesn’t have fs yet needed to rely on the sound ?

Speech has never given away invisible people though? Sanji and absalom talked and nothing came from it only at the moment that absalom stepped in the blood was his presence given away… same for queen but possibly different from garp as he was already moving I’m not disagreeing that haki is...

Lol do you not hear yourself??? So zoro taunts king (you are scared of what I can do) into Turing off his flame and king someone who kaido trusted first mate just decides to listen to the man trying to cut him up and turns off his practically invincible mode ? 😂😂😂 good job u made me laugh … as...

So absalom footstep didn’t give away his location be sanji ? I hear ya but oda isn’t just including the sounds for nothing against absalom there is a splak (step in blood) leading to sanji being able to locate and grab him… all the way up to his final attack on queen is the emphasis on creek...

Unless oda is retconning this is simply pis until oda wants zoro and luffy to go all out just like king they will turn of the flame then and get defeated or oda will prove that with adv coc u can actually do damage to flame on mode