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Yet the manga tells us, the BBP were hunting for powerful devil fruits They encounter a mythical zoan user and for some reason let him live and not take his df:josad:

nah luffy was capped as the 5th emperoro given a 1.5 bounty. So benn won't be any higher

nah, in 909 oda did actually call the WBP the strongest

This sbs?

Koby hype Oda already said himself he has Advanced Observation, and now we know rokushiki is apart of CoA Haki, all this pre-reverie :steef:

Someone under a billion bounty, stalemated big mom who has 4 billion :josad:Oda plz stop hurting the yonkos

Of course 1624558119 he doesn't write the vivre cards

what if Oda makes sure there isn't anything missing in the vivre card with and writes his name on the cards :ronalaugh:

what if he supervises them?

Yes, But what if he partially hit him? Agree, im just saying he was still capable of dodging top tier attacks. Whitebeard was focused on him, the whole point of WB fighting kizaru was because he was trying to stop him from going to luffy, which he succeeded but got out-sped even with his CoO...

Question, Zoro won't even get a chance to attack Blackbeard, his superior luffy will fight him

Ok I get what you're trying to say now, im not talking about confirmed, but rather have shown that they dont have elite CoO such The only time kaido has come close to speedblitizng luffy, was his special thunder bauga which got dodge. Realize that WB in a much more weaken state was still...

Wait timeout, Sorry if you got confused with my wording, I never said the DB said kaido and big mom have poor CoO But the manga has, big mom has Poor while kaido has average. Rayleigh has elite CoO, better then mihawk per the manga who's CoO has been hyped. Kaido is fast enough to partially...

Because he doesn't have "Elite COO" it showed us katakuri having elite CoO though So all that compares to Kizaru? Rayleigh has better CoO than mihawk based on manga, so it makes sense he keeps up with kizaru, Also manga shows us WSP WB -Out Reacting Aokiji who tried to sneak attack him on...

Yes, the manga tells us this. Manga are more canon than vivre card. And if it has yet to showcase the elite CoO from kaido then it remains fact No kaido needs proficient CoO to keep up, which the manga has yet to showcase for him and his equal. Because it's not therefore based on this we can...

No but like you said, it's a fact. Just like how the DB said nowhere akainu can melt yoru No it's implied in the VC you cannot keep up with kizaru without elite COO, kaido has not shown good CoO in the manga, therefore kizaru>kaido?

As I just told him

No it says you need elite CoO to keep up with kizaru. Kaido and most definitely big mom seem to lack that. VC implies kizaru>WSP and his equal Which would make sense as author named WB the WSP at MF

I understand, but kizaru can beat kaido and big mom due to them not having elite observation to keep track on him?

This is why Vivre cards are false, do you actually believe akainu can melt yoru the hardest blade