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  1. Wuuuke

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1157 Spoilers Discussion

    No it is rather clear, especially considering Deidara's immense pride and hatred of inferiority, and we have a very good direct comparison for The Third Kazekage being stronger than Rasa, who was comparable to War Arc Gaara, who should be considerably stronger than his start of series self who...
  2. Wuuuke

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1157 Spoilers Discussion

    Cap, It's Sasori and Orochimaru with Kisame's power floor being lower and ceiling being higher
  3. Wuuuke

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1157 Spoilers Discussion

    I mean we also have Hashirama saying that Madara once being revived through the Rinne Tensei is "regaining his past strength" which to me is another indication that the Edo Tensei's weren't quite on the same level as their alive counterparts, just much closer than they were compared to...
  4. Wuuuke

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1157 Spoilers Discussion

    I've always been under the impression that when Orochimaru absorbed Kabuto's memories he also gained knowledge of Kabuto's perfected Edo Tensei and used that version to revive the Hokage
  5. Wuuuke

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1157 Spoilers Discussion

    Sasori's feats are like nonexistent because of the unique circumstances in the main fight he has but we can get a good idea of how strong he is solely based off the fact of how strong the Third Kazekage is and the fact that he should be stronger than prime Chiyo who was able to fight against...
  6. Wuuuke

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1157 Spoilers Discussion

    I mean part of that is just Orochimaru being Orochimaru but another part of it is the fact that despite Edo Tensei only reviving the dead at *close* to their original strength, for Hiruzen it actually made him much stronger than we saw in part 1 because he had no stamina/chakra problems and it...
  7. Wuuuke

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1157 Spoilers Discussion

    To me it's almost more impressive in a way that Kishimoto was writing a lot of Naruto relatively on the fly and he was still able to create so many compelling plot twists and callbacks 1755030289 Itachi is still far stronger than Jiraiya even in sage mode anyway
  8. Wuuuke

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1157 Spoilers Discussion

    Kakuzu isn't much higher than a high jonin level fighter, he's really quite unimpressive all things considered
  9. Wuuuke

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1157 Spoilers Discussion

    When Deidara is monologuing about the Three tails lacking a jinchuuriki host, and then including 2 panels of Obito in what appears to be silent retrospection and Kishi going out of his way to have Deidara comment on "Tobi's" stark change in demeanour
  10. Wuuuke

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1157 Spoilers Discussion

    Using that particular example isn't a good one because Jiraiya was drunk which considerably nerfed him and Tsunade's resolve had been shattered up until that point But yes it is well established that Itachi is far above Sannin level
  11. Wuuuke

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1157 Spoilers Discussion

    Side not but I love this panel so much it's such underrated and overlooked foreshadowing for the Rin flashback
  12. Wuuuke

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1157 Spoilers Discussion

    Kisame's power level fluctuates quite a lot. I agree that while in base he's not as strong as people like Sasori, depending on how much chakra he can absorb with Samehada he can get disgustingly strong like we saw against Naruto and Guy I also don't have a high opinion of Kakuzu's strength...
  13. Wuuuke

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1157 Spoilers Discussion

    Aside from possibly Kisame, I'd agree
  14. Wuuuke

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1157 Spoilers Discussion

    Sasori is the most underrated Akatsuki in strength by the way
  15. Wuuuke

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1157 Spoilers Discussion

    Begs the question of who the other admirals were and who the fuck was the fleet admiral since apparently it’s not kong
  16. Wuuuke

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1157 Spoilers Discussion

    Oda could easily write an interaction between the two fruits functioning similarly to Aces and Akainus fruits for literally either being stronger than the other it’s definitely too vague to make definitive claims on IMO
  17. Wuuuke

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1157 Spoilers Discussion

    I’ve been good bro, took a break from OP for about a year caught up in the past few weeks Crazy to think Gojo vs Sukuna ending is coming up on its 2 year anniversary already, hope you’ve been well
  18. Wuuuke

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1157 Spoilers Discussion

    Nah I wasn’t even really talking about the abilities strengths themselves I was moreso asking to see if I had the real world physics stuff wrong or not I probably should’ve clarified better
  19. Wuuuke

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1157 Spoilers Discussion

    Again I may be out of my depth here but are “curves/folds” in space time not directly caused by the intense gravity of black holes? Of course I’m not going to say Fuji has that lev of gravity but I genuinely thought that’s how it worked no?
  20. Wuuuke

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1157 Spoilers Discussion

    yeah but my point is that if something like photons which are literally massless and weightless are affected by gravity, then why wouldn’t other weightless objects be. Of course the gravity would have to be absurdly strong but still
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