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Simple reading comprehension answered this question months ago. A key theme of the Navy throughout the story is the balance between justice and duty. Each and every high ranking marine has their own interpretations of both. We see this most clearly for the first time with Smoker in Alabasta...

I don't think this is actually about toxicity and is genuinely an issue of a large difference of interpretation. Most people when they first read through the series are very much not close readers and probably didn't pay attention/remember a lot of details. They just get the gist of the story...

I mean, so does st Charlos technically. They’ve always been called the highest authority in the world, but their strength was never highlighted

Also Akainu FV (or near FV) stocks would go up significantly

None of this was ever reason enough to believe they were top tiers though

ngl if Saturn was yonko level Kizaru wouldn't be here. Luffy just would have fought Saturn from the start.

Every major Egghead antagonist has awakened aside from Kizaru now... Nobody is ready

You mean the guy with a Craydily and Claydol on his team? :suresure:

Cynthia is better than Lance anyways

@Lance_Dragonite Rate the summary for things that are coming out in 30 minutes or less fans

Kizaru doing this much should have been expected lol, Oda wasn’t going to set this whole arc up just for the main antagonist to job to Luffy

Lol but imagine how boring that would be

He wont ever be meme lvl but trust me when i say he'll be closer to meme lvl than Shanks lvl EoS

Not a champ at all, his chain is fake. Kaido is carried hard by his rep. The narrator even tells us its based on perception bc of him being so hard to kill.

All this talk of power cliffing and yall dont think Shanks will benefit from the same logic? Come on now. Kaido gonna end up being closer to Meme than Shanks by the time we see Shanks' full power

Kaido not on Shanks' level lol

Its a good thing you've got over a decade of threads on this topic to read over and figure it out!

Why? lol

Kaido and Big Mom for certain, but characters like Blackbeard, Shanks, and Mihawk have a pretty good chance of still being stronger than the Gorosei even if they are revealed to be incredibly powerful.

Luffy not using his advanced haki against Kizaru whom he knows is incredibly powerful AND is trying to kill Vegapunk is ridiculous. Haki has never been well indicated, hell it's literally fucking invisible 50% of the time. If you agree Luffy if trying his hardest rn that's really all that...