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Why would you even have to wait until chapter 1189 to say imu ranks above him as a swordsman? If you held this kind of position, wouldn't the sword of nothingness that withers everything in it's path be another obvious indication? Or the sword that literally has aimbot via maki (Nemesis) ...

I mean, if Shanks cheated it is what it is, he did what he had to do to win. While honour in piracy does exist, like the davy back being used by Xebec to amass his crew, a straight up battle with nothing decided beforehand doesn't need to have any. At the end of the day Loki could go full zoan...

first they said zoro will forge on in wano, and now they saying he gonna forge it against sommers, are we just gonna do this everytime until is happens? What is this bullshit? do you know what a black blade is? you think it's gonna be achieved by clashing here and there with an omen boosted...

People had Zoro > Oden after the King fight, and I was trying to tell them how absurd that kind of take is, when Oden is just better at utilising the same sword, and haki in every way. Yamato was able to clash on with Hybrid Kaido's bagua, so if you put Zoro using dragon damnation there, what...

It's plausible, because I also think it makes sense Zoro has to have an EOS fight as the WSS, Because it goes hand in hand with the Pirate King and his WSS right hand man heading into DLC content. But it can also be confusing because, I've heard Oda has a statement saying One Piece ends when...

Also Mihawk could be the strongest in history as far as mortals go anyway, and still be weaker than imu leeches, but either way Zoro gets the title before fighting them

that has nothing to do with what I said, we already know that. I'm talking about him becoming the worlds strongest swordsman first. You have this little shtick where you like to say "if you dont agree, you aren't reading" "Anyone who denies this is possible I think isn’t reading the story at...

It would make more sense if omen nusjuro used muramasa or something

He's saying it's like Elden Ring where you fight a washed Radahn in the base game, and then when you purchase the DLC you get to fight Prime Radahn Buffed by magic. So he's saying Sommers is the base game and Gram is the DLC. He also thinks Zoro is going to strive to surpass Mihawk's sword...

That also brings me to another point, the fact that Zoro has to surpass this Mythical powered up Imu sword, and MIhawk told him to strive to surpass Yoru, confirms to us Yoru is stronger than any of these weapons.

He swatted him back like Domi Reversi Xebec swatted Roger back :Shadow_Unimpressed: And Reversi Xebec obviously one taps super sommers. Zoro getting overpowered by a much weaker opponent. There really is levels to this, Zoro aint even on pre-mustache roger's level yet. Granted he still don't...

it's not CoC in the sense that it can be used to attack someone but it's just remnants of oden's spirit that Kaido senses

just like how gaban asspulled sanji's stat page up to coincidentally recognise the qualities of a king in him so he could coincidentally awaken it in a fight where he needs it to win? sanji is a genetically altered cyborg who also has coc zoro isn't on steroids like sanji needs to keep up I...

big mom never told kaido to dodge one of luffy's attacks although it was obvious he should have dodged bajrang gun. A rooftop zoro evoked that kind of reaction out of big mom, so it's clear that zoro is always held back despite clearly being able to lop kaido's head off, all he had to do was...

he could be an amalgamation of the 20 kings themselves. idk

The King of Birds:

Imu can just recall it back probably, so it wouldn't matter but that would be funny

So he's just a liar then :goyea::

He's obviously still not in his prime, but he's remained active compared to characters like Ray and Gaban, there is a clear distinction.

By the way, the fact that Zoro is fighting an Imu Abyssal Leech with a mythical Sword, tells us a lot. It tells us that there is no excuses, and if Shamrock were to be super buffed by imu and fight Mihawk, he'd still lose.