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True that. Some have a tendency to resort to personal attacks or characters rather than bringing up some counterpoint.

Clown take.:gokulaugh:

Hoo. When someone pointed out obvious things in manga. You concluded that someone was creating alts... Seriously, how did you come up with such a conclusion?:lusalty: 1726202151 Garp with Marines and Sword vs Kuzan, Shiryu, and BBP.:crybeard: 1726202579 Damage control, circle jerk, creating...

It's pretty obvious Kuzan held back when Garp pointed out two times in a manga and the BBP fought him together, leading to his defeat. Those two statements aren't mutually exclusive with each other.

What circlejerk? Why should I be confined to some agenda sht like that.. Just give 2 cents for what really happened in the manga. Btw, see some outrageous take from swordsman fans when one of them said that Shiryu is superior to Blackbeard and Kuzan. You can't be serious, right? :whitepress:

Maybe. I wouldn't say that he has a prime Garp-level strength of punch, though. Causes of different characters have different peak potential, and Garp has famous status for his striking power until now. However, judging from the battleship bag chapter and their exchanged hits, when Garp used...

Kuzan saying that together they're finally defeating Garp doesn't invalidate that it was Kuzan who put in the most work to achieve that goal (Blackbeard indirectly confirmed only him and Kuzan who could possibly defeat Garp in this chapter). And it doesn't mean that Shiryu doesn't contribute to...

From story perspective, it's been highlighted twice by Garp that Kuzan was hesitating when fighting him. 1. When Garp used Blue Hole and said that wavering is a sign of weakness to Kuzan*. 2. And then Garp calls him soft when Kuzan looks out for his health in the middle of battle despite...