Paulie is the closest example of Carrot's situation. His fans were always arguing that his lack of a flashback, proper dream, and his background character treatment meant nothing since Oda will flip it around in the ending. Franky getting all the fights and focus was supposed to be another Vivi...
@Pot Goblin This episode also shows what I meant about Carrot's attitude with the fight. She was only aiming to make sure that Pedro was avenged. How strong she is or how she could prove herself wasn't in her thought process. The goal was for her to properly move on from Pedro's death. That's...
I couldn't help but laugh through it. Toei knew exactly what her fate would be for 90% of this raid yet still gave her this well animated filler to hype up the fight :kailaugh:
It is possible though that they add scenes to the fight like they did with Yamato vs Ulti.
It was nice seeing Yamato...
Law stuff aside, someone brought up that if you look at Sanji's and Nami's shirts on the new color spread, they say "I want freedom" and "Oden" on them.
You're right on the age, I accidentally went off the wrong year. Regardless of the exact number, how you can not view it as an age thing? His crew is structured around being a family and Oden is the only one in his generation. He calls him little brother even.
I don't understand why you're...
So he didn't respect Marco, Vista, and the other veteran members? Whitebeard was calling them son even at Marineford. You're also exaggerating the age gap between Oden and WB. They were 7 years apart. He was nowhere near the age to claim to be Oden's father.
Rocks had no one in his crew that...
Whitebeard was 30+ years older than everyone on his crew so them being called sons made sense. Oden was the only one close to his age.
I never said he'd look bad if he did join. It just goes against the idea of him leading the next pirate era, which is the narrative of the nova trio.
There's...
Unless Luffy decides to bring him against his will and chain him on the ship, it's not happening. The narrative has them as equals and this chapter cemented that for any doubters. There's a 0% possibility Law decides to join Luffy despite all the buildup for him being a leader alongside him.
Ace and Whitebeard weren't rivals or part of a trio of equal importance. Also, Ace assimilated his crew into Whitebeard's since just like Law, he loves them and they had nowhere to go otherwise.
Kid respects Luffy too and has the same tsundere attitude about taking orders as Law does with him...
Law and Kid have been portrayed as nothing but rivals of Luffy and the leaders of the next pirate era with him. It doesn't make sense for there to suddenly be a switch on that despite this trio being held since Sabaody.
After this chapter, it's 100% certain Law isn't joining Luffy.
It's better imo with C4N gone. I know he was the group punching bag but after months it got so boring. Him saying the exact same arguments/insults on loop then people taking the bait so they can shit talk him or Carrot for pages on the same thing.
Wouldn't say the bar has gotten too much...
Don't think I ever discussed it in this thread but it's a big red flag that Oden's bounty was never revealed. I 100% think it's being saved for when Yamato gets hers so that either it's matching or it'll be her EOS bounty. There's not any real reason to hold back Oden's bounty when we had the...
Along with her own flashbacks, I feel that Yamato has been getting a lot of connections to Oden's flashback beyond just him joining Roger. The most blatant ones are from the Roger vs Whitebeard chapter.
For there to be these thought bubbles basically telling you to compare these scenes, it's...
Powerscaling isn't the sole determinate on who joins, but it does exist. After the east blue 5, every member has been there with the powercreep and atleast comparable to the last one that joins. There's never been a huge dip in strength going into the next crewmate.
Yamato is pretty much the...
The Wano war is arguably the most important in their pirate career. As Zoro and Sanji said, it'll be the biggest step in making Luffy the pirate king and would overall solidify the SHs as the forerunner for the title. Missing out on Alabasta or the barrel promise isn't comparable imo.
It also...
Is anyone here still holding out for Vivi to show up in Wano?
I ask cause a good amount of people think she'll permanently join and there's an abundance of setup for the crew being done in Wano. With the delayed toast, Oda's statement of members joining in succession, and Wano being marked as...
I will say that Carrot doesn't necessarily need a fight to have a good closing moment. She could easily have a moment where she tells the SHs that she'll get stronger to help them when her moment comes.
If you're not trying to argue that it's likely and moreso just making a scenario she can get a W, I have no problems. I was only arguing the slim likelihood it actually happens in a real scenario. A Robin capture moment would 100% be meant for the SHs to prove themselves in reference to Enies Lobby.
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