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1. Kaido said that when Luffy was in Snakeman mode so Luffy used it in Snakeman mode Kaido never said that when Luffy was in base form. 2. No just different application Snakeman remains unbeaten all Kaido did was landing 1 hit Katakuri landed 10+ hits against Snakeman. 3. Only time limit shorter...

No because there's no confirmation from Kaido. Kaido confirmed Snakeman used FS. He never said base Luffy used FS. Luffy switched to Boundman because it had more ap to finish Kaido asap since Luffy time limit was almost over lol and Snakeman lacks ap not because Snakeman is useless lol...

Because using FS and CoC coating at the same time consumed a lot of haki which was why Snakeman time limit in Wano was so much faster compared to in WCI. Chapter 1042 Kaido confirmed Snakeman Luffy used FS.

Proof? Luffy did not use FS doesn't mean he did not use it because Thunder Bagua was faster. That's just somehting you amde up. You don't have panels to back this up. Luffy used FS Snakeman against Kaido debunked this argument.

How does that prove FS Luffy lost to Kaido? Kaido also cannot spam Thunder Bagua. Getting hit is not an L. Luffy with crude CoC coating never used FS. Didn't you post FS Luffy lost 3 times? What about the other 2 times?

Do you have any proofs he used FS?

When? Post them. Do you have any proofs Luffy with crude CoC coating used FS against Kaido? What about the other 2 times? Post them so I can debunk them.

Do you have any proofs that Katakuri is a fodder to top tier when FS Luffy remained unbeaten? My argument is better than your trash headcannon that someone called as the mightiest by top tier Rayleigh is YC5 lol. If Katakuri is YC5 then Rayleigh is YC4. Nah I'm a Jack fan you can see my avi I...

1. Prove a top tier can 1 shot Katakuri. How will Big Mom hit Katakuri? Again Luffy who was beaten by Kaido never used FS. FS Luffy remained unbeaten. 2. Except Katakuri is strong Rayleigh called him the mightiest. 3. No YC5 will get called the mightiest by a top tier.

1. It's Rayleigh own words. He's not King who got negged by Greenbull. Technically FS Luffy never lost a fight act 1 Luffy never used FS. 2. Which weak guy awakened FS? Did Rayleigh call them as 1 of the mighitest? 3. So prove your theory which YC5 awakened FS lol.

1. Rayleigh viewed katakuri as one of the mightiest so how come he's the weakest? Rayleigh put Katakuri in the same stratosphere as other FS users like Gaban and Shanks. Act 1 Luffy never used FS lol so there's no rebuttal easy. 2. And FS is the peak of CoO so I can 3. Which YC5 awakened FS?

So far only top tiers have FS lol. Katakuri is the exception but he's close to it based on how Rayleigh praised him. I can also use the same logic you don't need black blades. And again FS is the peak of CoO. What makes them different?

Nah I can FS is also a top of CoO maybe mid because there's FS killing but that's not confirmed in the manga. Why were WB and Garp unable to achieve FS?

1. Daifuku also did not have his full fight shown against Sanji. Calling someone dumb when you're the one who pulled headcannon WB had FS out of your asses lol. 2. Haki master based on what? 3. Big Mom is also a top tier. Yes that's my logic they never showed FS so they cannot have it. Except...

1. and why would that mean WB had FS just because he did not have full fight? We assume Daifuku had FS because Oda did not show his full fight against Sanji? 2. Oda also did not show Daifuku showcase all his haki. 3. So Daifuku can have FS just because he did not show it doesn't mean he doesn't...

Oda also forgot to give Garp and WB FS?

That clash was already proof enough WB had CoC coating. My logic is if they showed FS in flashback, they had FS. You are following the wrong logic. Wb never showed FS in flashback he showed CoC coating so unless WB showed FS in flashback, WB was unable to achieve FS and you still ignored my...

And Garp and WB were unable to achieve FS.

He showed it in his prime in Oden flashback so it's a good proof enough he had CoC coating. And why would Oda show WB flashback again? If he did not have it then he did not have it. This if and if is pointless unless it's confirmed in the manga. WB was unable to achieve FS just like Garp...

Why wouldn't he? He had a full fleshed flashback though Oden. He also never showed it in MF and no indication he had FS in his prime. It's not like Oda would give another flashback to WB again just to prove he had FS lol. That's pointless and a waste of panels. Why could not Garp achieve FS...