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I could see that. And Ussop vs Buggy.

Oda is clearly retconning Croc to be above YC1 level with that crazy bounty, so he'll probably fight Sanji and be stronger than King or Katakuri. It doesn't make logical sense for him to be that strong, but that's what it looks like is happening.

If Luffy is the king of the pirates who rules all the seas, how can there be 4 emperors ruling over the new world? I think there won't be any more yonko at the end, just pirate king Luffy.

The cover story is no indication of Yamato joining, but it's exciting for Yamato fans because it looks like it will either bring closure on her status or set her up to join.

I'm not denying it's likely the case, I was just saying what I hope will happen.

Hence the grand fleet being part of his power. It doesn't really count if he has tons of help. Like Roger never surpassed Xebec because he needed Garp's help to win. Do we really want that with Luffy vs Blackbeard?

Only side characters I want to see in the blackbeard war are the grand fleet. Luffy needs to prove himself the stronger yonko, not coast by on a bunch of allies taking out half the top brass. Coby or Sabo vs Kuzan, for example, would cement the strawhats as lesser than the blackbeard pirates.

He needs to have advanced CoC if he's fighting Zoro in a swordfight. If he doesn't have it, then Zoro should be fighting Kuzan instead. But as we were reminded in Wano, Zoro will always fight the sword guy. So I'm betting on Shiryu having it.

I'm surprised I'm the only vote for Venus. I thought his hybrid form was the highlight of the gorosei so far. Mars and Saturn are also great. Mercury and Jupiter are kinda derpy.

Zoro's fights being bad is a shit take. He's the only character in the manga with consistantly good fights.

Maybe cross guild, since Blackbeard and Shanks already have 3 poneglyphs and a potential way to read them. I could see York joining them.

Look I'm not saying it has to happen, just that she already has a perfect matchup if she does join. As far as warcury, it's more that he's the one in the middle, acts as if he's the one in charge, and his name is literally top man. Maybe he's not the strongest, I just said presumably. All I'm...

Because it's a reacreation of the mountain god incident and because he's presumably the top gorosei but also not Luffy or Zoro's opponent, so no other strawhat makes sense for the matchup.

She has a dream and a role, which is more than most characters, but she has no flashback and no villain for Luffy to defeat, plus she's a non-combatant, so I doubt it.

They ran away in WCI but Luffy still had a huge fight against Katakuri. The other gorosei showing up is actually what makes Luffy vs Saturn more likely because now Saturn can go down and the strawhats still have to run away. As for not being able to beat him, there's obviously some trick to the...

I'm not counting out Luffy vs Saturn still happening in egghead. Despite the other gorosei showing up, Saturn still has all the setup as the big bad of this arc. Luffy needs to beat him to resolve Bonney and Kuma's plot.

Luffy vs Saturn still in this arc, Zoro vs Venus, Sanji vs Mars, Jinbei vs Jupiter, and Yamato vs Warcury. I think it actually lines up perfectly if she joins.

I'm still undecided on if I think Yamato is a Jinbei situation or not, but you can't deny Oda already set up perfect opponents for her in both of the end of series factions that don't fit for any other strawhat with Kuzan and Warcury.

Actually I gotta drop out. With all the shit going on I mentioned in PMs I can't commit to being there.

Reporting for jurry duty :endthis: