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See vs told. I don't think Nami saw Lucci destroy Luffy and Zoro either. Wasn't she outside the whole time? And anyway there is a difference between hearing, versus seeing and having the Victor staring you at the face. You think the rest of SHs would pull bravado in front of an opponent that...

If someone one shots Luffy and Zoro at the same time, right in front of the rest of SHs' face, don't you think they would capitulate and hand over the poneglyphs? I don't think that would be equivalent to Luffy giving up his dream. As long as they live, they can still come back and fight

Nah, he won't give up his dreams. Kid is the type of character that will never give up. At the same time though, I don't think he will be quite as prominent either. I think he'll come back vengeful, maybe help in the final war

Great thread. Akainu was definitely the MVP and was the most dangerous, had most narratives. But I don't think he's the strongest, I have Shanks and Mihawk above him. But they weren't the driving forces. And Mihawk especially had zero stakes there.

Yeah, it was initially an editor influenced decision. However Oda has well integrated this into the story, with Mihawk, Whitebeard and others mentioning about it. With Shanks outright considering this as a "bet on the future ". If this had no impact on power level, why did Mihawk stop dueling...

I believe Greenbull is tallest admiral (with even admirals having similar heights), is he the strongest? And, Shanks and Mihawk were rivals who dueled each other for years, and has a relationship that is pretty much the mid gen Roger/Whitebeard. While King is significantly stronger than Queen...

What's the difference?? That's the same thing?

Yeah, unfortunately lol. How long was Egghead? I think 1.5 years? I would expect Elbaf to be for 2.5-3 years I do hope we get to see it in roughly 3 years though, Oda has to be getting tired to continue this for more than 5-6 years. I agree on the visual argument. But my argument is purely...

Oh ok, I see. Some of these posts do claim it's magma I see. Fair enough. Seems like shishio and monsterkaido definitely did claim it's magma. But some of these are also just for the sake of easier expression if we're being honest. Saying "magma dragon" is simply easier than saying "dragon...

Can you get some quotes? I have not seen anyone claiming that they can literally just magma. Rather I've seen just magma like flames/ magma esque flames/ magma flames etc.

I am not denying that it visually looks like a black blade. I'm just throwing out the possibility that it's just visual similarity, because there was no focus on the sword or Greenbull’s swordsmanship so far. So I just say wait. If it is a black blade, it's just a matter of time before we get...

Dude's fighting air lmao. Nobody claimed they literally had magma.

I've already given the reasons: There are many events that don't make sense if Greenbull forged a black blade. I have seen some comments of him just having a black blade, but not having forged it. In which case, I don't see the narrative reason at all; why would the author pull that off at...

Shouldn't they be celebrating? As someone who likes Aokiji, this chapter was good for me. Aokiji not playing around there makes the whole moment impactful, him scheming to save Saul would've been so boring and lame

Zoro's conqueror's haki got confirmed it manga, with fodder getting KO'd, King verbatim asking if Zoro intents to be a King, and Zoro answering yes. There is zero ambiguity for Zoro having conqueror's haki. All you have here is something that is visually similar to a black blade, held by...

I say it could just be visual similarity. My counter argument is other stuff in verse which wouldn't make sense if Greenbull was strong enough to forge a black blade: - zero indication that his main fighting style is swordsmanship, didn't use it even once and instead fought fully with his DF...

Ahh, so it's trolling then? I initially thought so too, but at this point I don't know lol. A lot here are serious about it being a black blade. And yeah, Sanji obviously has basic armament and 99.9% chance has armament haki hardening too (which gets hard to visualize due to his legs for...

Then it's just a matter of time before it will be acknowledged in the manga? And yes, considering the other two black blades were explicitly addressed in the manga and hyped up, if Greenbull has a black blade it would be addressed too. Black blade is relevant, if it wasn't clearly you all...

@Dragon777 @Kurozumi Wiwi @Sir Yasheen @EmperorKinyagi @SakazOuki @MarineHQ @ZenZu @Sentinel @NikaInParis @Elder Lee Hung I presume you all think Greenbull has black blade. If that's the case, surely it would be addressed and confirmed in the manga at some point. Yoru and Shisui being black...

Admiral fans been getting really unhinged lately.