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i know it's a alias that was never the point my guy. 1714324310 that's the thing pain isn't nagato but nagato is using the path of pain as his puppets and is speaking through those puppets. I ignore it because it isn't relevant neither should this whole back and forth debate whether or not pain...

then he should've said Nagato character wise is a better character than Madara since pain is basically a dead puppet whom he controls. You're making it more of a big deal than it actually is.

bruh you're still missing the entire point. All of the pains are fucking corpses so of course it's nagato speaking through his dead friend corpse. So it's nagato character speaking thru pain as pain himself isn't even alive.

because the original owner of that body is dead. You might as well had said Nagato is speaking through that said body. their thoughts are not the same I don't know where you're getting the ideas from but what you are saying is a false assumption.

you miss the entire point lol.

then this whole argument is pointless since it's nagato speaking through pain not pain himself which is exactly my point.

that won't work on me😎. Anyway pain is not even his own person he was being controlled by someone else.

ok you know that's a stretch.

wasn't pain merely a puppet? 1713637136 That's debatable

character wise or power wise?

Who you think is better is all subjective so most go with the popular opinion. I personally like the Shichibukai more since they individual standout from each other than the akatsuki.

yeah infinity has never been quantifiable in the least.

hey is there a way to tell the difference between subsonic and transonic speed in fiction or in real life for that matter? 1713392211 Hey can someone move your thread automatically?

hey is there a way to tell the difference between subsonic and transonic speed in fiction or in real life for that matter?

The 6 Stages of Power Speed: F-Tier(average) E-Tier(subsonic) D-Tier(transonic) C-Tier(supersonic) B-Tier(hypersonic) A-Tier(Lightning speed) S-Tier(light speed) X-Tier(superluminal) ∞-Tier(immeasurable) Strength: F-Tier(human to peak) E-Tier(wall to city block) D-Tier(town to mountain...

Exactly unless we're talking about a world where magic is the only primary source in a story that's a whole different discussion since it has its own set of rules and laws place there.

yeah most fans think no type of logic should apply because it's fiction. My thing is just because they have powers that lets characters go above the laws of physics doesn't mean they're not still bound by it.

would that same logic apply to shinra from fire force?

but from quicksilver's perception everything seems to slow down because he's moving faster than you normally see.

so like quick silver in that one X-Men movie from the kitchen scenario?