Multiverse General Who are the better characters: 7 Warlords or Akatsuki

Which characters are better?


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We’re talking about the individual members
Even individually,

Oda forces us to feel sorry for villain (the same for good guys) and also makes them retarded in funny ways, while Kishi makes it seem natural with villain stories and convictions

Look at Kuma for an example,
Oda went on abusing the whole "suffering trope" with excessive pain he had to endure

The problem with Oda is that the less we know is when characters seem interesting, he can't really write great villains when he starts fleshing them out
 
Even individually,

Oda forces us to feel sorry for villain (the same for good guys) and also makes them retarded in funny ways, while Kishi makes it seem natural with villain stories and convictions

Look at Kuma for an example,
Oda went on abusing the whole "suffering trope" with excessive pain he had to endure

The problem with Oda is that the less we know is when characters seem interesting, he can't really write great villains when he starts fleshing them out
Naruto villains are all ass except Madara, Obito, Pain, Sasori, and Part 1 Orochimaru
 
then this whole argument is pointless since it's nagato speaking through pain not pain himself which is exactly my point.
What? All Pain = Nagato, that means every thought, everything Pain was saying, or everything Pain's doing was also Nagato.
if u think Pain isn't Nagato thats wild and weird lol
which is why @MonsterKaido said Pain>Madara in terms of characters, cuz its the truth. Nagato's ( which is also Pain ) character is better than Madara. ngl this is the first time i heard someone thinks that Pain himself isn't Nagato.
@Adeer Ruckus Better put Pain/Nagato cuz seemingly @Transcendent Being doesn't think Pain = Nagato
 
What? All Pain = Nagato, that means every thought, everything Pain was saying, or everything Pain's doing was also Nagato.
if u think Pain isn't Nagato thats wild and weird lol
which is why @MonsterKaido said Pain>Madara in terms of characters, cuz its the truth. Nagato's ( which is also Pain ) character is better than Madara. ngl this is the first time i heard someone thinks that Pain himself isn't Nagato.
@Adeer Ruckus Better put Pain/Nagato cuz seemingly @Transcendent Being doesn't think Pain = Nagato
you miss the entire point lol.
 
you miss the entire point lol.
but thats the point tho, u said Pain wasn't himself, he was controlled by someone else, and i said if thats someone else is Nagato. Pain = Nagato cuz they are the same thing.
it's nagato speaking through pain not pain himself
By this logic, U basically think that Pain is a different being than Nagato which is not true at all. Which is the same as what i said. We all think Pain = Nagato except for u. Different Body? Yes, but their thought, what their spoken are still the same cuz its coming from Nagato. Nagato uses dif body cuz its way efficient to use Rinnegan power that way Cuz He Can't even Move. Hence Pain = Nagato.
 
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