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Sanji was able to injure oven with base kicks, is it really so hard to believe that raid suit sanji couldn't make a supernova scream out in pain with a base kick? Also, Sanji didn't actually defeat Page and Page was able to send RS sanji flying through a city block. I highly doubt Franky would...

At the expense of who, exactly? The tobi roppo are on par with the supernova. Who's Who and Sasaki are literally trying to fight yonko commanders. I fail to see exactly how the m3 fighting them would steal a fight from the fodder trio

if anything the monster trio will fight them. Who's who vs Sanji Sasaki vs Jinbe would be decent 1v1s for the two of them.

isn't that how all powerscaling works. Do you think we should assume fights without paying any respect to powerscaling? You're not actually giving any real arguments as to how the mid trio or weak trio can 1v1 any of these guys. You think they will do it without first stopping to think if it...

they were the strongest headliners Apoo was already a member of the beast pirates back when he "allied" with Eustass Kidd. And yet even Apoo wasn't a tobi roppo. hence I say they are elites

How? I think everyone is just jumping the gun because the tobi roppo are the only decently strong beast pirates we have seen apart from the calamities and the beast pirate supernova. Once we see the numbers, I think the matchups will become more clear. But if you want perspective, Sasaki was...

no but the tobi roppo are confirmed to be as it was stated that they were the strongest headliners, meaning above Hawkins and Apoo.

cool they're still not going to 1v1 supernova level characters.

I don't actually think Nami will fight Galette. I think she could totally fight a tobi roppo. Just that it definitely won't be a 1v1 and will be a 2v1 if not a 3v1

You say that Galette is one step above fodder but she literally neg diffed Nami last arc. And I don't actually think that Oven was on the same level as the tobi roppo. Oven had a bounty of 300 mil, the same as Hawkins. And hawkins wasn't a tobi roppo. Tobi roppo aren't just normal veterans...

again. Why is it a black/white scenario where they either fight fodder or have to beat people who are portrayed as stronger than half the supernova

anyone can fight anyone. That doesn't mean anyone can beat anyone in a 1v1 fight like many people suggest. This implies that there is a black or white choice where the mid trio and weak trio either fight characters who are portrayed to be stronger than some supernova or they fight fodder...

Weaker than they are implied to be? I really don't know what you are talking about. We saw what Doflamingo vs Law looked like, we saw what Cracker vs Luffy looked like. If Sanji was really on that level, he would have been dominating X Drake. Was he? Clearly not. Not only that but Drake...

He could do that, I just don't see why he has to do it. Wano isn't the final arc and there will still be at least a few arcs before Luffy fights blackbeard. The straw hat pirates do not need to become the equals of the beast pirates in wano kuni. Especially since we will likely have an arc...

but didn't Gallete low diff Nami? They are portrayed to be stronger than some supernova. Hawkins and Apoo are headliners, the tobi roppo are the strongest headliners. hence at the very least they will probably have bounties above 350 mil and will likely be tough fights for even the strongest...

How the fuck can any of them beat the tobi roppo if the weakest member was able to ragdoll raid suit sanji. They will either fight the numbers or tag team.

I think tag teams would be the most realistic here. Robin and Nami vs Ulti Franky and Usopp vs sasaki Brooke and Chopper vs Who's who Drake will join the alliance and Sanji will rematch against page one. as for Black maria. I feel like she'll fight compote. Two yonko are obviously way too...