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  1. OEKaneki

    Powers & Abilities General CoA Discussion - Basic & Advanced

    Which is false, because Zoro was able to do that without using haki, because he didn't have it pre-ts.
  2. OEKaneki

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    Actually it’s not backed up by the manga, and is definitely not better than what I’ve said.
  3. OEKaneki

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    This has never happened. You say what I have to say is headcanon and then put out that lol. It's not unique to him if it is a basic tenant of swordsmanship, and he has called on it again, whenever he later goes to cut steel. He's retained that ability.
  4. OEKaneki

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    You know, it's pretty funny that you shit on me for "writing multiple paragraphs about a Japanese cartoon for kids," when this entire thread is based off of initial post in which someone else wrote multiple paragraphs about a Japanese cartoon for kids, and last I recall, you've never once said...
  5. OEKaneki

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    No, that’s not what I’m saying. Dealing with the first part, the breath of all things is not something “that works exactly like advanced haki”. This idea is based on two different things, a mistranslation on the part of JB and a mischaracterization of the breath of all things. In their...
  6. OEKaneki

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    Oh, and Zoro. Don’t forget Zoro. :sneaky:
  7. OEKaneki

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    It makes perfect sense. He was using the breath of all things, a swordsmanship technique, to help Luffy understand what he was trying to do. He was basically saying that if swordsman want to cut steel, they will their sword to do so. And if they want their swords to cut nothing, they will...
  8. OEKaneki

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    Maybe you should read my post to @Vlad D. Impaler, where I already explained the difference between JB and Viz, and explained what Viz did as opposed to JB, as well as how Viz doesn’t equate the two.
  9. OEKaneki

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    I’m not even sure that it requires a special skill as opposed to the way the sword is made. Mihawk says that any blade can become a black blade, referring to using hardening to coat it. Rayleigh and Shanks can certainly do that too. But, if you look at blades that we know are black or can turn...
  10. OEKaneki

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    The viz version of the scene clears this nonsense up anyway. In the JB version, it’s worded like haki and breath of all things are connected. In the Viz scan, they’re presented as two different ideas, with the boat sentence being a reinforcement of what he’s trying to teach Luffy. He says “in...
  11. OEKaneki

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    Actually it’s not. And for the record, my favorite character would murder Zoro, who is my second favorite character, tied with Nami. So...
  12. OEKaneki

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    So the smoke and static was from his shirt being ripped. Got it. Actually I didn’t. Kyoshiro said nothing about haki, nor flow.
  13. OEKaneki

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    Interesting, because the smoke and static in the panel that showed where he cut Kuma indicates that he did. Unless you think merely ripping his shirt is enough to cause that. Actually he didn’t, because he didn’t have haki. He used the breath of all things, which is a swordsmanship technique...
  14. OEKaneki

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    No, he does not equate Zoro cutting Daz to haki. The quote does not reference a haki technique that Zoro used in Alabasta. But since you want to talk about the quote, fine. It is actually a refutation to the point. Hyou explaining the basics of swordsmanship for samurai in Wano does not...
  15. OEKaneki

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    Lmao it is addressing the point. It is an actual refutation of the point. You say (falsely) that Zoro cutting steel in Alabasta is an example of Zoro using haki because of Hyo. Which means that every time from that point forward that Zoro cut steel, like when he cut the train and when he cut...
  16. OEKaneki

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    No one needed to say that he used it consistently, because he was consistently cutting steel throughout the pre timeskip following his fight against Daz. Even further, he would have been using that ability at the very least during times when he was facing overwhelming strength and needed to be...
  17. OEKaneki

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    Apparently there is, given that Zoro could not use haki before the timeskip but could after. Oh, which is why when Zoro was going up against Enel, Aokiji, and Kizaru pre-timeskip, he was able to affect them even slightly, given that he had the ability to cut steel, which is equivalent to using...
  18. OEKaneki

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    No, I’m not. I’m saying that he didn’t use haki period, not that he couldn’t have used it because he wasn’t told what it was. You guys are pushing a fallacy that using haki equates to cutting steel. Zoro cut Daz, made of steel. Later, in Water 7, Zoro cut the sea train. Even later, in Thriller...
  19. OEKaneki

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    Which does not mean that Zoro was using haki, as evidenced by the very fact that later on he had to be taught how to use it. Furthermore, you guys are trying to claim that Zoro was using haki in Alabasta, which means that he would have been using haki from literally that point forward, which is...
  20. OEKaneki

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    Lol “you can’t hit a fruit user like that without it [haki],” sorry, wasn’t aware Daz was a logia. Stop trying to tie a concept that didn’t exist yet (haki) to the beginning of the series simply to fit your headcanon.
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